[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread JLa
Thanks for all the help and advice! :) I went for a ride and practiced shifting the 4 largest cogs. Then I rode over a hill few times and pedaled harder for few strokes and then pedaled lighter and shifted. The shifting was really a lot better than before. It’s still not perfect though. It’s espec

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread JLa
I read from Paul's web site that the Thumbies have 26mm clamp size and fit standard stem-clamp sleeves. But in the picture at rivbike.com they are mounted on Nitto bars that should be 24mm diameter: http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//0701/17-124a.jpg Is it possible to fit them to Ni

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end ³Silver Shifters²

2010-08-18 Thread Earl Grey
For what it's worth, I have silver shifters and a Shimano 12-27 cassette on my Sam, and it shifts exceedingly well. Because of it I have fallen in love with friction shifting, and have turned off the indexing on my Fisher monster cross (Shimano 9 speed barcons, custom 12-32 cassette). On the Fisher

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread rob markwardt
I ride a 9 speed/11-32 and an 8 speed12/30 with barend Silvers. Both work flawlessly. Disclaimer...I live on a big hill, and most of my riding includes big hills. I get a lot of practice. Also, I've been using friction shifting pretty much my whole life so it seems second nature. Not sure I cou

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread William
I use 8-speed on all the Rivendells. Silver shifters with an 8speed SRAM 11-32 cassette. I use a normal rise rear derailleur, and I can absolutely shove it from the second-largest to the largest cog under load silently. Shifting to a smaller cog is already lightly loaded, because I'm shifting to

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread JLa
Thanks for all the replys. My bike is quite new and the shifting is fine other than the largest cogs. If the problem was with derailleur hanger, would it affect all the gears? If forgot to say that the cassette is 9 speed (11-34). Grant Petersen's advice on the Shifting page on rivbike.com sound

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread RayO
On two different bikes I use Silver downtube shifters with 7 speed IRD freewheels and Campy Mirage and a Champ rear derailleur. I can't believe how well this works in comparison to 70's-80's top end Campy (Record/Super Record). I stil have to ease off a little to down shift while climbing but, a

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread EricP
While I like and use the Silver shifters on my Sam Hillborne, that bike has a 7 speed freewheel. Did try it with an eight speed cassette and did not like the shifting characteristics. Seemed to my fingerbrain that the correct spot was right between "clicks" on the the shifter, so nothing was real

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread reynoldslugs
Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). On Aug 17, 2:34 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:22 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > > I

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread reynoldslugs
I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I have switched over to Shimano indexed bar-end shifters, which h

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread William
I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Selecting the right gear and sticking with it for the entire hill is one approach. The single speeders here certainly know what that feels like. An

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Juhani Laitela
Thanks for the answer. I guess I need to go to the closest hills and ride around until I learn how to shift :) Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? 201

[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-16 Thread Jim Cloud
When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up