[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-03 Thread grant
You've got to expect the odd "number mishap"! I had various versions, broken down into different-sized steps. Sorrya bout dat. All I can assure you is that in general, the numbers will get larger, more or less, as the lesson progresses. If all goes according to plan. Sidebar to all this: I'm worki

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-03 Thread William
OK, Pondero, for what it's worth, here's my stick figure: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4856880566/ I realize the lines are not dark enough to see all that clearly. I merely guessed at tubing diameters. I think I put the downtube too low where it hits the headtube, so the front whee

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Whoops, now I see what you mean. I guess the numbering caught up to itself. :-) Just ignore my last post. Sigh. Bob On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote: > Actually the first PDF wasn't labeled with a number as it just showed the > materials list (protractor, etc.) > > The s

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Actually the first PDF wasn't labeled with a number as it just showed the materials list (protractor, etc.) The second pdf was the first step in the actual drawing and so on from there... Aloha On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > OK...that says step 3 on it so I assume it is

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread Johnny Alien
OK...that says step 3 on it so I assume it is just a number mishap. On Aug 2, 8:39 pm, William wrote: > Step 4 was seat tube angle: > > http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/336/original_n4_seat_tube_angl... > > On Aug 2, 5:37 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > > > Did I miss step 4 somewhere?  I ha

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread William
Step 4 was seat tube angle: http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/336/original_n4_seat_tube_angle.pdf On Aug 2, 5:37 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > Did I miss step 4 somewhere?  I had the PDF with step 3 and then the > next one was step 5.  Was that just an error? > > On Aug 2, 1:44 pm, Pondero wr

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread Johnny Alien
Did I miss step 4 somewhere? I had the PDF with step 3 and then the next one was step 5. Was that just an error? On Aug 2, 1:44 pm, Pondero wrote: > Excellent!  Now scan it and show the rest of us.  It's critique time. > > Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd >

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread Pondero
Excellent! Now scan it and show the rest of us. It's critique time. Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd love to see it. On Aug 2, 12:35 pm, William wrote: > I went ahead and worked ahead.  Grant had us up to seat tube angle.  I > did chainstay next, and then s

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-08-02 Thread William
I went ahead and worked ahead. Grant had us up to seat tube angle. I did chainstay next, and then seat tube length, which allowed me to connect the dots for my seatstays. Then I marked my saddle height and drew a level line from the saddle to the front end. I knew I wanted to be able to get the

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-28 Thread William
I think Laney College here in Oakland did a frame building class, as well as The Crucible, which is a vocational arts school with every kind of heat based trade (glass, welding, blacksmithing, etc). Maybe I should look into that. On Jul 27, 9:08 pm, Bill Gibson wrote: > I took a welding class (W

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Bill Gibson
I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like that) at the local community college a few years ago and got to try everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds in my life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and plasma cutting, and it's on my list.

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Steve
I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my youngest son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my Rambouillet. The only change I made was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the min

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Bill Connell
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM, pruckelshaus wrote: >> Don't stop at drawing it, build it!  I built my first frame this past >> spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the >> nicest frames I've ever ridden! >> > > I realiz

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM, pruckelshaus wrote: > Don't stop at drawing it, build it!  I built my first frame this past > spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the > nicest frames I've ever ridden! > I realize this is off-topic but Mike Flanigan of ANT bikes in massach

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Bill M.
You might want to play around with BikeCAD, too. http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/index.php# The full-featured version is expensive, but the on-line Java version is free and quite fun to play with. It can even model 650b wheels with 42 mm tires! Bill On Jul 27, 11:25 am, William wrote: > Grant i

Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread Rob Harrison
Pics please! I'm intrigued by this idea, and will try to follow along if I can make the time. We often debate the merits of hand drawing versus computer drawing versus Building Information Modeling in my office. We're using ArchiCAD for most of our projects now, but sometimes I think about

[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?

2010-07-27 Thread pruckelshaus
Don't stop at drawing it, build it! I built my first frame this past spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the nicest frames I've ever ridden! On Jul 27, 2:25 pm, William wrote: > Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his > little step by step w