Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Front is currently 34t, which the big rear cog has now rendered rather silly for road riding. I'm going to try a 36. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-26 Thread Ed Fausto
Same question, how many teeth is your front Sugino ring? On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:21 PM dougP wrote: > Whooee, that's one big cog! What front ring are you using? I'm loving > the evolution of this bike. Thanks, Joe, for keeping us updated. > > dougP > > On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:39:26

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-26 Thread dougP
Whooee, that's one big cog! What front ring are you using? I'm loving the evolution of this bike. Thanks, Joe, for keeping us updated. dougP On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:39:26 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Microshift Advent rd and 9-speed 11-42 cassette. The shifter showed up >

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-17 Thread Philip Williamson
Cerakote. Hashtag #hundredbucks. Agree on the friction, agree on the #dontworryaboutit. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-17 Thread Ed Fausto
Good feedback! Will try with my medium size which is challenge to use because of my small size Riv frames. On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:46 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > New pics! I wanted to show something that may be obvious to other > Sackville users, but was news to me. I had the BaggaBond snugged

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-17 Thread Tim Baldwin
Close enough! That's too nice of a chain to toss for color coordinatation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-17 Thread Joseph Bernard
Almost. The cassette and derailer will be black, but I'm running a shiny new nickel Wipperman Connex chain so it'll be a good while before I can pop a black one in there. It was supposed to look good with the silver/black XT derailer..oops!  On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 8:29 AM Tim Baldwin wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-17 Thread Tim Baldwin
Will the Microshift drivetrain give you a black cassette and chain? Then you could have a sweet stealth drive train. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-16 Thread Joe Bernard
I love the bag. I keep all the permanents - tools, patch kit, mini pump, tube - in the front Trunksack and use the Jones bag for phone, wallet, readers, keys and snacks. It's super handy, plus I love the bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-16 Thread Ash
Hiey Joe, I've been enjoying following the evolution of your Atlantis. Keep those pictures coming! That loop bag is so perfect for nuts/candies/blueberries/snack bar/or any stuff one keeps reaching for on a cruise. On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:13:49 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks Roberta, I'll give you a call when I sell in 2025!  The black fenders and racks were a surprise to me, too. It's a motif which has spread throughout the bike now, but I wouldn't have thought of it myself. James and Candice have excellent taste  -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-16 Thread REC (Roberta)
Joe, It's a great looking and great bike. I'm surprised how much I like the black fenders--very understated. One of the first bikes I tested was James's MUSA Atlantis and just LOVED it. It was the bike to convince me to buy a Rivendell. Enjoy for years! And, should you ever want to get

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 臘 The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I rode today (and most days) had

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Ash
Joe, thanks for posting the pictures. It is fun to see the evolution of this bike. It is a true sport utility vehicle! I think it is a very practical drive train. Right size chainring. That RD is fantastic. Had it on my 51cm Appa. Question - what do you mean by ditched a chain? On

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Ash
Joe, thanks for posting the pictures. It is fun to see the evolution of this bike. It is a true sport utility vehicle! On Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:11:51 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Today's version. Jones Loop 710 I got in a trade and hoo boy does it feel > nice on this frame. This is a

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, I noticed it on the clear ones I had, but I'm not much of a rain rider. I ordered black this time because the clear looks terrible on black bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Chris L
The long Jones grips really make an already awesome bar even better. I haven't used the black grips but the clear ones can get pretty slick when they are wet. Something to keep in mind if this is an all-weather bike. On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 5:11:51 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Oops, editing fail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-08 Thread Joe Bernard
"It'll work if you friction shift it." True, and I'm already there. I swapped that cockpit out and ended up with an old 7-speed Suntour thumbie set to friction cuz that's what I had around. Turns out it shifts better than the 9-speed in index so I'm good to go! -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-08 Thread James / Analog Cycles
It'll work if you friction shift it. -james On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 1:05:44 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Shoot, I don't think the Microshift idea is going to work. I assumed it > would work with the Shimano 9-speed bar-end, but the Advent copy says I'd > need an Advent shifter. No

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-08 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Rust is a scab on steel. With high quality steel, you'd have to really work at it to rust it out. This stem has been treated with Ospho, and that neutralizes the rust. Sure, in 100 years, it might be an issue. But the tubing is 2mm thick, it's not going anywhere any time soon. People ride

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-06 Thread Ash
Around where I live and the roads/trails I ride on, only once in several days do I see someone actually using the drops. They all mostly use hoods, corners or the flats. Many alt bars offer equivalent of those 3 positions, plus the upright position when I want to take it easy, see the world

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-06 Thread Todd Porter
I agree with Ash's take. I have billie bars on my Homer, and the position just in front of the brake levers feels like holding the bars just behind the hoods on drops-which is mostly where i kept my hands when i rode drops; however, if i want to sit up more, holding the grips is way more

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-06 Thread Joe Bernard
It's better to burn out than it is to rust! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-06 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looks great with the new stem and bars and glad to hear that they are more comfortable! I always find raw steel stems to be jarring to look at. Kinda fingernails-on-a-blackboard. And, I can't help but think, 'Rust Never Sleeps!" David Lipsky Berkeley On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 3:17:22 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-05 Thread Ash
Certain alt bars essentially offer an enhanced (more comfortable/ergonomic) hood position :) On Friday, 5 April 2019 16:16:46 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Thanks, Jeff! Yeah I think it looks better, and it sure feels better. On > today's ride I was able to focus on the rest of the bike

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks, Jeff! Yeah I think it looks better, and it sure feels better. On today's ride I was able to focus on the rest of the bike because I wasn't concentrating on finding comfortable hand positions. I'm a hoods rider and the RM-3 is clearly designed to be ridden in the drops. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-05 Thread sameness
My favorite iteration. Looks like it was born that way. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 3:17:22 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > New plan. It looks less wild (and more silver) now, but I gave in to the > more familiar and comfy for my wrists V-O Milan cockpit with

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Shoot, I don't think the Microshift idea is going to work. I assumed it would work with the Shimano 9-speed bar-end, but the Advent copy says I'd need an Advent shifter. No go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Get the Atlantis now and GBW later!  Personally I think the Atlantis looks better, but I didn't buy it for GBW-ish riding, either..it's mostly going to see road duty. If you want those newfangled "plus" tires for the dirt, Gus'll do ya. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Ed Fausto
If I keep on looking at your MIT Atlantis, I may end up buying a size 50 Atlantis instead of my planned small GWB :-) Nice bike :-) On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:37 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, B Secula. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, B Secula. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Ed Fausto
Thanks Joe for the feedback on the fender light. I assume that its a B I recently removed my rear rack on my Hunqapillar and replaced it with my Carradice Original Bagman Support - Expedition. This resulted to loosing my Dyno B Rack-mount (

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-04-02 Thread Ed Fausto
Hi Joe, how do you find the fender installed rear light? Where did you mount the headlight? On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:54 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Bars back up and level where Candice had them. Because she obviously knew > what she was doing and I tried to "fix" it! The bar/levers is getting

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-30 Thread Joe Bernard
Jandrews: I get 46cm C-to-C at the midpoint of the curves, 60cm end-to-end. I had a 46cm Noodle years ago which felt WDE for my short arms, this bar is nothing like that. You'll get the width in the drops - which I understand is where most folks ride these - but the inward angle is a

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-30 Thread jandrews
Hey Joe Congrats on the Atlantis Regarding those bars, from my limited research, I seem to recall there being two versions in terms of sizing and it’s a bit misleading how wide they really are. Can you give a sense of how wide these are at the drops and at the ends? Can you compare to, say a 46

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Ash
HI Joe, Yes, it is 26.8 - I had used this with my MIT Atlantis frame for that blacked out build. On Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:24:18 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Hi Ash, isn't it cool?! > > No decent ride report yet, my schedule filled up with all the things > today. > > Pedals are Deity

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
An interesting side note about the guy who was admiring my bike: "Atlantis, I've never heard of them." 'Oh, it's made by Rivendell in Walnut Creek, Atlantis is the model of bike.' ".." I really wish Riv would put "Rivendell" in small font on the toptube like early Bridgestones. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Hi Mark, Yes the handling is the same, there's hardly any weight in the bag. The 'walking speed tiller effect' is quite minimal, and possibly a result of the tire and slack angle as much as the stem. It's not there at all with hands forward where a short-reach stem clamp would be. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread esoterica etc
Hey Joe, Glad to hear the shakedown ride went so well, and that you’re really enjoying the new wheels! I love my new-to-me Atlantis, but I’m in the process of figuring out a new drop bar cockpit (current is with Bosco bars on a 110mm stem), and because of the long top tube, I’ll need a

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Update after actual semi-decent time in the saddle: It's awesome! The bars set dead level didn't work, they're in a more common dropbar position now and it felt great. My hands are a little sore, but I haven't been riding much and this is new, so that's going to happen no matter what. The 0°

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
DHans and Roberto: Thanks, I dig it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Jesse, with the caveat that I've hardly ridden the thing at all yet so (leaving shortly to fix this today): The bike came to me set up this way, it was Candice's ride, we're about the same height. My impression is the cockpit was arranged to be ridden mostly on the tops with full access to

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread DHans
Joe, that is freaking awesome! The black looks so good with the frame color. The flared handlebars look cool too. Doug On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 3:56:00 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! > > 53cm 650B > > WI Mi5

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-29 Thread Jesse
Hey Joe. I'm a big fan of Analog's Riv builds. Yours is particularly nice. Did you consider the Salsa Cowchipper at all? How do you like the drop position on the RM-3? I used to ride Midge bars and didn't care for the hooks being at an angle greater than, say, 20 degrees downward; then at

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Hi Ash, isn't it cool?! No decent ride report yet, my schedule filled up with all the things today. Pedals are Deity Black Kat, they're huge! Is your black post 26.8? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Jonathan D.
I really would love a ride report of the stem. The build looks great and thanks for sharing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Ash
What an eclectic build! Never seen an Atlantis like this before. The cockpit is weird, but seems very functional. Which pedal is that? Hope this bike stays weird! PS: I've got a black Shimano seat post if you'd like to go all black.. On Thursday, 28 March 2019 09:42:09 UTC-7, Joe Bernard

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Hehe, what could go wrong is taking metal out of the clamp area and snapping the bars in half. This would probably be bad! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Wow! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Philip Williamson
Congratulations, Joe! My eyebrows literally kept going up as I read the build list. Great looking bike. As far as the stem adjustment, just drill a hole straight down through the stem and bars so you can access the bolt. You might need to slot the bars top and bottom to allow for 'roll.' What

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm back to the black Suginos for now. They fit, look nice, and I need to stop fiddling and ride the dang thing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-28 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Silver cranks w/ black chainrings (or at least the outer) might look nice... Doug On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:25 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Good point, Doug, I have a couple all-silver cranks on other bikes. I may > do some swapping around among silvers cuz I'd like to use the black one on > my

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Good point, Doug, I have a couple all-silver cranks on other bikes. I may do some swapping around among silvers cuz I'd like to use the black one on my Seven. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread dougP
"Hmm, nix on the silver with yellow." The yellow is distracting, even in a small pic. Plain silver would look great, and compliment the black components. The black racks look understated & don't call attention to themselves. It makes the whole bike look more muted & serious. This is one of

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Todd Porter
Those new bike adjustment periods can be equal parts exciting and frustrating. I've had my Homer a little over a month now and was making a minor adjustment on the way home from work yesterday. Great riding bike though. Hope the bars work out, cause they look super cool. -- You received

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
It'll be interesting to see, Todd. I spent most of my riding time fiddling today so only got another short "hard to say" pedal in, but the position on the hoods feels good so far. There's lots of surface area to rest on and the levers are super easy to reach and operate. I'm not much of a

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Todd Porter
I love the look of that bike. Will be curious to see how you get on with those bars after the initial adjustment phase. I've always been curious about the really flared dirt drops, but not quite enough to give it a go. I think i may be past the drop bar days of my riding. Currently very happy

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks, Brett. The black/silver mix is a slightly unintentional surprise that came as a result of buying the bike as a built demo, then having them remove stuff I was replacing with my own parts. It originally had an all-black rear derailer and mostly-black, (gold pins) chain. Now that I'm

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread REC (Roberta)
Both unusual (the cockpit, now that I know what that group is called) and beautiful and the same time. I hope you love it for a long while. My first ride on James' $4500 MUSA Atlantis 2 1/2 years ago was what let me know that a Rivendell is for me. It's a great ride. Roberta On

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Mark Schneider
Nice Joe, I really like the look of the build, will be interested in hearing your detailed review. Have fun Mark On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 12:56:00 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! > > 53cm 650B > > WI Mi5 rear

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread Brett Callahan
Joe, it's a beauty. I dig the mix of black and silver used in the build. I have the same fenders in silver on another bike and like them a lot. They look terrific with those tires and wheels. Let us know how you like that stem after you've put a few miles on it, please. Enjoy it! Brett, pdx >

[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

2019-03-27 Thread RDS
Beautiful bike. Thanks for all the info that you have provided me in email exchanges as it is so helpful. On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 3:56:00 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! > > 53cm 650B > > WI Mi5 rear hub,