I want to chime in here with my 100% agreement. My CLEM is a wonderful
workhorse and even does well when pressed into AZT service. I'm going to
keep this bike as long as I can. My wife has one. My stepfather rides one.
I'm endlessly on the hunt for a used 45cm L-Type for a close friend, though
Yeah, I expect Grant could vastly improve the AR without changing or losing
the plot. While he's built some very long bikes lately, I have to assume
that Grant would still make a bike with lightweight tubing, relaxed-sporty
geometry including medium-length stays. I hope so, at least!
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To clarify, "new Nobilette All Rounder 26" to me doesn't mean an exact
recreation of the original. I'm thinking in terms of Grant's proposal that the
new Nobilette production frame be in-between newest and oldest designs. I'd
ditch the horizontal dropouts for vertical, for example.
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Convinced that I'd never find an original All-Rounder in my size, I
recently asked Grant for permission to have Nobilette to build one for me
with the original lugs, tubing, etc., and he nixed the idea. He was very
nice about it, but said that he would want to add "improvements" (not
further s
On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Julian Westerhout wrote:
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> The current Atlantis is not what I'd think of as an All-Rounder. The old
> Atlantis and the original All-rounder were.
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> My proposed Nobilette All-rounder would be a 650b analog to the proposed
> Nobilette specials
On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:02:31 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> A new Nobilette All Rounder with 26" wheels would be cool.
Isn't that a SWB Atlantis nowadays?
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I think overlap is “not a big deal” if I’m out on a sport ride, not hauling
baggage, not constantly stopping and starting in traffic. But when I’m on an
urban commute or grocery haul, it becomes, not necessarily “a problem” but a
hassle I’d rather not have. Not a deal breaker, certainly, just so
I follow R&E in Seattle almost as close as I follow RBW and tend to agree
with their philosophy that there is no reason for a bike to have toe
overlap. They tend to design around wheel sizes that eliminate toe overlap
and they also go the "more fork rake/less head angle" route to eliminate
toe
Fair enough Patrick, I have had bikes with varying amounts and I should
have been clearer that I think some toe overlap is OK for me (ie my 51 Sam
has some when I run fenders) and I've also never had an accident due to it
(also rode fixed a good while on a bike with a fair bit of overlap) but I
I should add that I've never, in what, 24 years? of riding fixed with TCO
-- and even more years riding fw with TCO -- never had an accident due to
TCO.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:41 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> One's reaction to TCO -- or rather, "TO" -- is very personal. Grant has
> said more tha
One's reaction to TCO -- or rather, "TO" -- is very personal. Grant has
said more than once, in effect, "It's not a big deal." Obviously it is a
big deal to some people, but it is not in itself a design defect and does
not mean in it self that the wheel size is incorrect.
My personal preference is
Toe overlap is one of my gripes with a lot of Riv bikes - while it's
generally a product of appropriate geometry, rather than a design input, as
mentioned wheel size is a big contributor and IMO if you've got anything
more than slight overlap, then the wheel size is incorrect.
IMO any bike wi
The current Atlantis is not what I'd think of as an All-Rounder. The old
Atlantis and the original All-rounder were.
My proposed Nobilette All-rounder would be a 650b analog to the proposed
Nobilette specials are a return to something more closely resembling the
700C Rivs of a decade ago with
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. Remember when Riv was one of the few (only?) to
offer a bike spec’d with 650B? They were committed to getting some tires out
there, and though we had to wait a while, the industry followed their lead. If
Riv wee to design another great 26” wheeled all-rounder, per
If Grant were to put a 26" wheeled All Rounder on the market again, I
wonder if that might not help initiative a return to market of decent 26"
wheel tires other than knobbies and heavy "city" tires? Rivendell designs
have driven trends before ...
There was a thread on the Boblist which mentioned
Any touring/rough stuff frame they currently offer with disc brake option.
I have no interest in disc brakes but the frame would allow folks who
require them to buy a Rivendell; that would help Rivendell stay afloat
financially.
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I’d be curious how many would be interested in a long tail cargo bike but based
on the current Clem dimensions. My guess is the Yuba Boda Boda is about the
same dimensions as a Clem.
https://yubabikes.com/cargobikestore/boda-boda
One size, 26” wheels for people 5’2”- 6’2”
A family and utility
That's an Atlantis. I was responding to the fellow imagining a new 26" wheel
bike.
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I'd agree with the idea that a Nobilette All-Rounder would be fine, but in
650b --- 26" is starting to fade on all but the low end. It seems good
tires, etc. more likely to be found in 650b, or, as the Kool Kids say,
27.5".
Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL
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A new Nobilette All Rounder with 26" wheels would be cool.
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A canti Sam Hill with 26" rubber. I find my 700C about perfect, but for one
thing: I experience toe clip overlap in constant stop and start urban
riding (I use fenders). I would also appreciate the quickness of getting
going with 26" wheels. I realize 650B would get me the same lack of
overlap,
MUSA pants with solid pockets and un-weird gusset colors, that's what's
missing.
- Andrew "Not bitter, just certain," Berkeley
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I think they should widen the tire clearance on a Homer, but keep the
lighter tube spec. This would be an all-day rider (not a tourer) but with
2.2" clearance for extreme fire roads and easier single track, a la Crust
Bombora or Black Mtn Cycles monster cross. Perfect bike for a mixed terrain
b
I don't know if there is any demand, but I would love to see a mid-size
(mid to upper 50's in size) bike with moderate chainstay length, 26" wheels
and a long ETT length. Like an Original 56cm Atlantis stretched 3 to 5 cm
on the front-end and maybe a little in the back.
Probably only missing
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