Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-07 Thread Ryan Frahm
No need for measurements any longer. Thanks all. Hopefully my Clem frame will be on the way soon! On Saturday, September 7, 2024 at 7:40:48 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > A question for any Clem L 59 owners! Would you be willing to measure the > frame and fork length and height please? I have a f

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-07 Thread Ryan Frahm
A question for any Clem L 59 owners! Would you be willing to measure the frame and fork length and height please? I have a frameset waiting to be shipped to me but my mother in law hasn’t found a box and I wanted to call around her area but she hasn’t measured the frame for me. Any help would be

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-07 Thread John Johnson
Hey Patrick, I ride much smaller sized bikes than you, but I had a 45cm Clem H and currently have a 45cm Clem L. Both the pre-2019 26" wheel size. I actually sold the Clem H to a friend after riding my wife's Clem L and realizing I liked her Clem L better. The top tube on the 45cm Clem L is 5cm

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-06 Thread Richard Rose
Chris, same! Or at least similar. Mine is a 52 & I fluctuate between 170-175lbs. I CAN make the bike flex (grab the bars and shake from side to side) but it simply does not happen under normal riding. Any flex I do get is likely part & parcel of the comfortable ride? I had a PX10 once. That was the

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-06 Thread Chris Halasz
Subjective data point: At twelve stone (168lbs) I have yet to experience the often stated flex on a (64cm) Clem, even with a couple rear panniers of produce, or while accelerating along an extended climb (without panniers, mind you) while passing the majority of our weekly cycling group (I like

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-05 Thread iamkeith
FWIW, I think we discussed and resolved the question of whether the Clem H geometry changed along with the Clem L before being dropped, a couple or few years back. This isn't gospel, but the consensus was that it didn't. Here's an archived geometry table from, from when both were available, a

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-05 Thread David B
My 2014 (?, is that the first year) Clem has a 64cm top tube, same as the 60cm Appaloosa I was considering. On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 4:05:05 PM UTC-5 Tom L. wrote: > I have a 2017 Clem-H in 59 and the top tube is 25.5" center to center > which is 1" longer than my 2022 Atlantis in 59.

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-05 Thread Tom L.
I have a 2017 Clem-H in 59 and the top tube is 25.5" center to center which is 1" longer than my 2022 Atlantis in 59. On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 10:33:56 AM UTC-7 David B wrote: > To chime in as a long time 59cm Clem (H) rider: I have the first run > version which has a shorter top tube

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-05 Thread David B
To chime in as a long time 59cm Clem (H) rider: I have the first run version which has a shorter top tube than the current L versions. The H might possibly have gotten a longer top tube at some point before it was discontinued. I've hemmed/hawed over the years about 'upgrading' to an Atlantis o

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-04 Thread Patrick Moore
That's what I need; many thanks. On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Ryan Frahm wrote: > Hi Patrick! bikeinsights.com has the geometry. I can’t link the geo chart > directly but you can look it up there! I can’t say if it is 100% accurate > but it seems to be. They also have the new L model so you ca

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hi Patrick! bikeinsights.com has the geometry. I can’t link the geo chart directly but you can look it up there! I can’t say if it is 100% accurate but it seems to be. They also have the new L model so you can compare the two! On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 6:58:57 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wr

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Kim; that is very doable and in fact the list for a built-up Clem on the Riv site is very attractive. Color is of least concern, especially as, for now, I am thinking of one to use as a beater; patchwork or primer with a few dents would be ideal. I'm much more interested in the ride feel (

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Garth. I hadn't followed the model's genesis. Can any owner and rider say how the H compares in handling and overall "fit and feel" to the L? Does anyone know where to find the geom specs for the H? Thanks. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 11:27 AM Garth wrote: > Patrick, the first Clems were m

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Ryan Frahm
Good choice Tristan, enjoy it! On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 6:56:16 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote: > Way to go, Tristan! Congrats! I imagine you're going to have a blast. > Looking forward to the first photos. > > Cheers, John > > On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 6:34:56 PM UTC-7 triste...@gma

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread John Rinker
Way to go, Tristan! Congrats! I imagine you're going to have a blast. Looking forward to the first photos. Cheers, John On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 6:34:56 PM UTC-7 triste...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, you guys, I just bought a 59 Susie. I think it’s going to be perfect > for the type of ri

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Tristen Moss
Well, you guys, I just bought a 59 Susie. I think it’s going to be perfect for the type of riding that I do and I can’t wait to post a photo of the build! Thanks for all the inspiration! Tristen On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 6:21:52 PM UTC-7 philip@gmail.com wrote: > That’s good to kn

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread P W
That’s good to know that it’s the Clem H that I want!Also in 59!P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:00 PM, Kim H. wrote:@Ryan,You are more than welcome.I thank you for posting further information about the differences in rake length between the two Clem models. Kim Hetzel. On Tuesday, Septe

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Kim H.
@Ryan, You are more than welcome. I thank you for posting further information about the differences in rake length between the two Clem models. Kim Hetzel. On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 4:53:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Thanks for posting that Kim! I wrote a message earlier and posted

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thanks for posting that Kim! I wrote a message earlier and posted but for some reason it was deleted. The fork rake per Will was 53mm on my old Clem H when I had to get a new fork and he had one from a Hunq at 55mm. The new Clem L has 67mm of rake. On Tuesday, September 3, 2024 at 4:46:33 PM U

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Kim H.
@Patrick, Most all Rivendell bicycles hold their resale value. Pending on what componentry the seller has on his or her bicycle and the scarcity, the price range can vary any where from $1800.00 to $4000.00. You can find a used Clem for around $1800.00 and up. I sold my 59cm for $1800.00 locall

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Garth
Patrick, the first Clems were made in 2 styles, the normal top tube (H)is and the low tube (L)adies, originally called Clementine., an awesome name. The story I read alleges "someone" took offense to the frame name/designation, so apparently Grant gave in to the insanity and changed it. Well I'

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Patrick Moore
What is the difference between the Clem L and the Clem H? Are there any other Clem models besides the L and H? If so, pray, what? And how are they different from the L and H? Last question: Are any of these models likely to be cheaper on the used market than others? Thanks. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 a

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Tristen Moss
At this point I’m pretty dead set on a 59 Clem L. At first I wasn’t sure about the step through frame but after everything I’ve researched it seems like people absolutely love theirs. I’m really hoping to come across a used frame or even a complete before Rivendell receives theirs early next ye

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-03 Thread Kim H.
@Tristen, Upon your visit to Rivendell headquarters, if they have 59cm Clem "demo" that you can ride, you might want to ask if it is for sale. I bought my Clem last November as a "demo". Needless to say, I was very elated to purchased it, because it was in the color I really wanted, RBW blue. I

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-02 Thread Tom
Very welcome. Have you considered a used H model in a 59? This album has pics of my former grilver-colored 59 H model with Jones bar before adding the ESI grips. 2.3 Mezcals. Saddle height is 79 here, and I liked the handling with saddle level w

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-02 Thread Gordon Stam
Hey Tristen - I'm almost 6'2" (almost) with a PBH of 91 cm and I have a 59cm Clem. I got it based on Rivendell's size recomendation and it happened to be in stock at my LBS last March. I initially built it up with a Nitto Tallux (?) stem with the 225 mm stem length and the 70 degee bend (quill

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-02 Thread Tristen Moss
Thank you so much for the info, Tom! I emailed Rivendell asking when the next shipment of Clem L’s will be in stock and they said around early 2025. I almost impulse bought a 64 but talked myself out of it. I’m sure I’ll be much happier riding off road on a 59cm. On Saturday, August 31, 2024 a

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-09-02 Thread Tristen Moss
Your Clem looks great, Chris! I’m not too far from Rivendell so I think I’m going to go test ride both sizes. I’d say the short drive is worth it for a dream bike. On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 8:33:13 AM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote: > Tristen > > I'm 6'1", with a long reach and 89cm PBH, and l

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

2024-08-31 Thread Tom
Tristen, good luck with your Clem search. I am 6' tall with a 90 pbh. I've had two 59 Clem H models at different times, ridden on roads, paths, and some single track. For more off-roadish riding, I'd suggest: - Get a 59. The Clem is a looong, big bike, and the 59 will be plenty big en