On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:39:58 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium",
> which sounds about as legit.
Niobium is element 41, a transition metal. It was previously called
columbium, but the name change was some time ago.
A few years ago they had more sizes. Guess they got bought up.
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Did anyone miss the part that Alex's only has 52cm in stock? OK cool.
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I think it would have been nice for them to ask RBW first.
But RBW says they have had a really good relationship with “them” (toyo?). So
they didn’t mind.
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Quite a difference between Grant/Riv and Specialized. Specialized threatened to
sue a bike shop called Cafe Roubaix and the guy had to change the name.
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/12/roubaix-roubaix-roubaix-roubaix.html
I'm not so sure I'm on board with someone else making and selling
The largest size is 56ctc. Oh well
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 9:13:18 AM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
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> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
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I contacted rbw about it because i wanted to get one if real and also wanted
them to know it was going on.
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That’s what they emailed back to me that they didn’t mind and wished them well
with it, iirc.
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RBW Was unaware but didn’t mind because they have had good relations with the
Japanese in the past on projects.
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Really? As in, Riv was unaware of them being sold and they weren’t part of Riv
production run? That seems really strange. I know lots of Riv designs aren't
exclusive and are available to other distributors (like Nitto bars and racks)
but a whole bike?? That doesn’t really sit well with me,
Bill Lyndsay first posted about alex cycles having them.
I called RBW to see if they knew if the Alex frames were the real deal and
they told me the info I posted above about the possible leftover lugs but
unknown what tubing Alex would be using since RBW thought they used it all
up for their
It's come up a few times here. This thead is the most information I've seen
about The Mystery Rambouillet.
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I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you! Has the Alex Ram been mentioned here before
and I missed it? I would have thought it would get mentioned more often. I
don't recall ever having seen it mentioned on the Blug or Blahg. At that price
I'd think they would sell quite a few of those.
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actually only the 52 in green and blue is available
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:13:18 PM UTC-4, Brewster Fong wrote:
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> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged
I don't think they're using actual niobium tubes (these go in nuclear
reactors) but rather an alloy. See this page from Columbus.
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On Friday, August 3, 2018, 1:59:57 PM CDT, Brewster Fong
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Niobium
Niobium tubing is Chinese-made tubing that I think Ritchey uses on its
steel frames:
http://www.firmetal.com/niobium/niobium-tube-pipe.html
After all, weren't people asking what is Kaisei tubing just a few years
ago?! Of course, Kaisei tubing use to be known as Ishiwata tubing which is
good
Beautiful bike!
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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> I bought a used custom on this list as my "poor man's" Roadeo. It fits 32's
> without fenders and minus the seat bag and water bottle weighs just shy of
> 22lbs. Light weight tubing throughout and no
I bought a used custom on this list as my "poor man's" Roadeo. It fits 32's
without fenders and minus the seat bag and water bottle weighs just shy of
22lbs. Light weight tubing throughout and no accomodations for racks.
What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium", which
sounds about as legit.
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RBW said Alex’s Rams might be made of leftover lugs but they don’t know what
tubing they would be using so I wonder if it is really the same thing?
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On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
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> Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 50,
> 52, and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping
Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 50, 52,
and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping (frameset). Good deal for those wanting
them. I think supply is very limited.
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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
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Christopher, what do you mean that it's still possible to get a new Ram from
Japan? Is there NOS out there? Nothing I have read or heard would lead me to
believe that there are new Ramboullets coming out of Japan. This would not be
the first time I've not known what I'm talking about.
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Me too. Best handling bike I've ever ridden...
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You and me and Grant.
Jeff "85-ish Club" Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 3:18:33 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
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> With a pbh just under 85, all of Riv’s bikes seem to fit me perfectly.
> I’ve actually had people ask me if my Rivs were custom bc the fit it so
I am not sure if the Alex cycles Rams are the same as RBW Rambouillets
because Alex's fabricator may have left over original lugs to use for their
builds but it is unknown what tubing they are using for them, so may not be
the same tube specs as the original Rivendells. I guess a call to Alex
So you feel the Roadini rode the best out of the three?
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I have owned a Ram, Rodeo, and Roadini. They are all great bikes and if you can
get over the lack of lugs and the fit is ok, the Roadini gives up nothing to
the other two. With a pbh just under 85, all of Riv’s bikes seem to fit me
perfectly. I’ve actually had people ask me if my Rivs were
There was a 53 (my size) for sale here last year but I passed. Price was great,
too.
It was still bumped at last OP post and not reported sold but by now must be.
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I'm going to concur w/ Joe here...the Roadini is as close to a MIT
Roadeo as you'll ever see.RBW has been moving towards the sloping top
tube for fitment.
If you want a 'classic' level top tube, I'm gonna say, hunt down a
Roadeo... they turn up here every so often...
-L
On
Yup, the dream of being 6'2"...
But that's why the overly tall love Rivendell so, because they care. Maybe not
enough to make our dreamy fat tyred planing machines, but at least bikes that
fit. That said, where'd the 65 roadinis go! All presold to collectors no doubt.
-Kai
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I pine daily for an OS 7/4/7 phattie-tire road bike in 67cm. It would look
approximately like a Roadeo.
Perhaps one day my dream will come true.
KJ
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:41:45 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
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> Oops... correction:
> Roadeo tubing is even lighter than I thought, at
It will not be MIT. No one has ever even hinted at this. Even once.
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Oops... correction:
Roadeo tubing is even lighter than I thought, at least when it first came
out. Wonder what it will be if MIT?
>From an article when the MUSA version first came out:
"Mix of Reynolds 725 and TrueTemp OX Plat. As thin as I/Grant could stand
to go. (0.65 butts in the tt and dt,
After reading the rest of the thread, I *did* hear from a couple of others!
Patrick Moore, who would take a 57.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I'd be interested to hear from others who have ridden both: does the
> Roadeo ride differently from the Ram and, if so, how?
I'd be interested to hear from others who have ridden both: does the Roadeo
ride differently from the Ram and, if so, how? One earlier respondent said
that the Roodeo was slightly quicker in handling and felt more spritely.
I'd buy a Roadeo if this were true; I've owned a Ram, and though a worthy
Having owned Ramboullet, Roadeo and Legolas, the Legolas seemed snappier,
slightly planing for me. It was/is 63 cm Legolas, 62 Ram, and currently 61 cm
Roadeo. Roadeo accepts 36mm wide actual tires, IIRC Ram was about 40. Roadeo
lighter road bike feel compared to Ram. Roadeo does not plane but
Indeed, all Roadeo sizes below 59cm are 7/4/7. Anything 59cm and up is
8/5/8. There are also other details to shave grams like the tiny chain stay
bridge and modified Hilsen lugs. Cool details and a great design for riding
in a pack. Very maneuverable without being overly twitchy, particularly
If you already have a Ram then I don’t know if the Roadeo will be a huge
change. Unless there’s a tire you can’t fit.
-J
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In 2011 I couldn’t afford a Hilsen, so I had Rivendell build a San Marcos for
me. It was a typical Riv build with Nitto, bar-ends, Rich-built wheels, and 3x9
drivetrain. It is pretty, comfortable, and it loves to climb hills and fly down
the other side. I’m in the process of replacing the
*Thanks for the info and asking, everyone!*
*RE: Sam Marcos: *Back in 2012/13, I originally looked into one for price
reasons while eyeing a new Rivbike, but the full build would have cost
almost the same as a Rivbuilt Sam so I went full Rivbike Sam.
I already had a used Bleriot.
Riding both I
+1 on the Soma San Marcos. I really love mine! Light and nimble feeling
ride.
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:
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> Almost sounds like what you're wanting is the Soma San Marcos...
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> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
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Almost sounds like what you're wanting is the Soma San Marcos...
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
Maybe keep your eye peeled for one of those?
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I could do a used Roadeo if the blue one and in good shape if no more new ones
coming out. I will email RBW to see.
Or..an orange Rambouillet...
But I really would like a Roadeo.
I will wait to see what they announce in the works for next year.
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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:03:15 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
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> Although the Roadini is probably the best engineered bike on earth right
> now.
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Can you explain what makes the Roadini the *best engineered bike on earth*
right now?! It looks like a regular tig-welded frame with a
Not sure how much the Roadeo ever fit into what people think the "Riv
philosophy" is, but I had a 53cm Roadeo painted orange (since sold on this
list) with 11 speed Ultegra on it and it was by far my most comfortable and
fun road bike, plus it was absolutely gorgeous...fast too. The Roadeo had
Is this a good comparison?! Doesn't the Roadeo have lugs at all joints?
This roadini thing looks mainly tig-welded except for the seat lug which
looks...well, different.
I'm not against bikes made in Taiwan, as Maxway and Giant (mainly carbon)
make good stuff. But this doesn't appear to be a
That's my impression, too, Igor. Roadeo is an older mostly-level-toptube 700c
design with mid-reach brakes like the Rambouillet; it never struck me as a big
seller, nor one that Riv promoted much. I expect it to remain a MUSA bike you
can special order, but I don't see a same-name MIT version
I have absolutely no data to back up my claim but the Roadeo did not sell
as well as the other models and I don't see them bringing it in as MIT
model.
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I think for MIT Roadini = roadeo. All the MIT models have slipping top tubes
and longer chainstays then the MUSA counterpart. I don’t think another one is
coming out.
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Let me qualify what I said by saying I thought I read Roadeo is 7/4/7. Legolas
I thought I read that, too, but I think only way to get is custom .
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No, Hilsen has thicker tubing IIRC and Roadini has 6degree sloping TT and isn’t
fully lugged. Although the Roadini is probably the best engineered bike on
earth right now.
I already have two 8/5/8 Rivendells and am interested in trying a 7/4/7 with
shorter chainstay Riv like a Roadeo.
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It's already out. https://www.rivbike.com/products/roadini
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