I kind of just suffered in making the same decision. I was all set to buy a
roadini and the second I saw the new sage Sams on the instagram, I changed
my mind. I wanted a fast road-ish bike, but the new Sam looked so good and
the reality is I always end up riding dirt. Figured the Sam would be
Run what you brung is a solid life decision! I recently made a similar one with
my Sam.
Reid in Austin
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Thanks all for the feedback. I’ve taken a little from each response to help
weigh my decision. I ultimately decided to keep the Sam. It came down to the
fact that I see the Sam as being a little more versatile and adaptable as my
riding style changes. Whether the desire to change is driven by
I have a Sam and a 650 B and an older Waterford 2200. Maybe keep the Sam and
buy a used Waterford with a 1” threaded headset and raise the bars. It’s
certainly not a Riv. but it can be set up as a go fast bike.
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To: Dan Stein
From: Patrick Moore, who should be writing resjmes
Date/Time: When he gets off work and opens up the list again
Subject: Rivendell Rosco Roads
Thanks. That's very interesting I'd be delighted to hear anyone compare
actual riding experience of such roady roscos to the Legolas and the
There were a couple of Rosco versions. The Rosco Road which I have and is
designed for drop bars and I've heard compared to the Legolas, and the
Mixte which was more upright, and I think another one that was also upright
if I recall but don't remember. Maybe I'm wrong on the the mixte, but there
I didn't read up about it, but I thought the Rosco was more in the line of
the Clem or whatever stout tubed upright bike replaced it. Is it really
comparable to the Legolas? -- Not that it matters necessarily; as I said
elsewhere, one of the "fastest" bikes I owned was a tank jettisoned by
'fast' is so subjective. and what is perceived as fast may not actually be
'fast' if you compare times, it just feels 'faster' (not that there's
anything wrong with that). I do the same route all the time: about 2k feet
of climbing (starting off with a 31-35 minute climb) and ~30 miles. I've
done
I have no plans to buy a Roadini, but the question is very interesting in a
general way -- ie, what makes a bike fast, or at least, feel fast? For me,
it's not "planing" -- or at least, I don't feel faster on, say, small-tube,
531 frames than on stouter Rivendell OS frames. If you remove tires and
This does make for an interesting question... So the Roadini has slightly
steeper (.5 degree, I believe) head and seat tube angles, the top tube is
baseball-batted in diameter, but does anyone know what the wall thicknesses are?
Not entirely indicative of sportiness, I know, but these stats are
For people who have ridden one, is the roadini a fast* bike? Before I got
practical I used to ride a lot of Italian race bikes from the 1970s and
1980s. I've had a great time on old Colnagos and Olmos, but now I'd just
plain like the bars higher. That said, I think that the value proposition
Sell the Sam, buy the Roadini.
That is the sensible thing to do.
I am trying to not buy things I don't need...would have been good advice 5
bikes ago
On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:17:54 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
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> On the other similar thread, there was lots of advice to simply
On the other similar thread, there was lots of advice to simply strip down
the Sam and make it sportier rather than go with a Roadini. I'm not in that
camp when the rider already has an all purpose bike and is seeking light
load rec and club riding. Sure, there is some overlap with all
*I want this bike to be my relatively fast bike that I ride when I am
looking to go out and get a quick ride for pure recreation and fitness. I
may even be ambitious enough to go do a group ride with my old riding
buddies from back in my racer wannabe days. Lately, the Roadini has been
the
Don't dink around. Get an Atlantis.
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:40:04 PM UTC-6, Broccoli Cog wrote:
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> Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having trouble
> deciding between keeping the Sam Hillborne frameset that I already own or
> go in an entirely different
Here are my thoughts. If your Sam would fit me, you should get rid of it!
In all honesty I almost always feel that new bike urge. And it is fun to
get a new one. But taking that old bike for a spin usually makes me fall in
love again and takes care of my desire for something new. So get some
I commute on a Sam and love it. I’ve test ridden a Roadini for about an hour,
and now I can’t get that bike out of my head. I don’t know if it’s just
because it didn’t have all the heavy commuter gear, but it felt real quick and
springy compared to Sam. Oh, and still smth. I really don’t
If money isn't an issue and you can offset the costs by selling the Sam,
I'd sell it and get a Roadini. For paved riding with no racks/load I'd
place my bets there. I have ridden a Sam, but not a Roadini or Rodeo so
can't comment specifically on the ride comparison though. I have ridden a
Sam
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:32:49 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
Call RBW And ask which of their bikes has the thinnest tubing and shortest
> chains stays. I’m no expert but I think
... they will tell you that your priorities are skewed and that you're
shopping at the wrong bike
Here is (hopefully) a link to Bill's post that John referenced:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/9i5ROKi9ETs/gQjYkP6hCwAJ
And I thought it wise too, enough that the Sam path is what I will be
taking.
That said, the 61cm Roadini (1TT) versus the 62cm Sam (2TT) might be a
It's a 62 2TT
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
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> For the sake of someone I know who may want a Sam - what size?
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>>
>> Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having
>>
For the sake of someone I know who may want a Sam - what size?
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having trouble
> deciding between keeping the Sam Hillborne frameset that I already own or
> go in
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