Hi Patrick,
If the twinging in the knees is not sharp pain (dull pain, aching is
okay) then I would consider it not great for your knees. However, that
is not from seated high torque pedaling per se. I'd bet the seated
high torque pedaling is revealing a weakness/dysfunction elsewhere in
the
On Jan 5, 2010, at 10:28 PM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
I also have a bias against changing more than one variable at a
time since doing so
may make unclear what the most effective strategy is…
What he said.--
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Excellent, Lyle -- you are confirming all my prejudices. The twinges are
dull and don't start until the next day.
Patrick Mash 'em! Moore
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:57 AM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Patrick,
If the twinging in the knees is not sharp pain (dull
On Jan 6, 8:57 am, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com lylebog...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'd bet the seated
high torque pedaling is revealing a weakness/dysfunction elsewhere in
the kinetic chain--weakness or excessive tightness (or a combination
of the two) at the hips for instance--which yields poor
Hi Patrick,
I could never tell what which was worse: going down College Street in
Burlington on a fixed gear in the snow ice or going back up it!
Enjoy!
Chondromalacia is a specific pathology in which the articular surface
of the knee cap softens. This problem typically responds well to
On Jan 4, 9:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I meant this: is standing on steep climbs, or, IOW, standing and doing low
cadence, high torque pedalling, bad for you knees? Is it any different from
stair stepping?
I don't see how stair stepping is comparable unless you're taking a
Thanks, Patrick; I do appreciate your reply. I should have been more clear
about what I meant by stair stepping: I have in mind those machines that
people use in gyms, and the real thrust of my question was that, although
sitting and shoving a pedal over in too high a gear is by all accounts, and
On Jan 5, 2:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Patrick; I do appreciate your reply.
well, I hope some one can give you a more definitive answer. and i
certainly don't want to be discouraging - I also ride fixed gear, and
often push a bigger gear than I probably should. but
Hi All!
I’m joining this one late, again… and once again, this will likely be
lengthy…
IT Band trouble is rarely a primary cause of knee pain, or an
independently occurring malady. Unfortunately, there are no very good
studies of IT band syndrome. For instance, some researchers have found
that
Cool, thanks for the info, Lyle. Xrays show I'm knock-kneed a bit. Also
have scoliosis curve which tilts my left shoulder down toward my left hip a
bit. Dr. suggested moving my heel in a bit and saddle down a bit, does that
sound like valid advice Others have suggested widening the crank
David,
You've certainly got a number of variables at work here… do you have
pain in both knees? The scoliosis will likely affect the orientation
of your pelvis in the saddle, specifically I'd anticipate that your
pelvis would be somewhat rotated so the left hip/leg will be forward
of the right.
ooops! ... femoral antervsion,... that's femoral anteversion :)
On Jan 5, 8:28 pm, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com lylebog...@gmail.com
wrote:
David,
You've certainly got a number of variables at work here… do you have
pain in both knees? The scoliosis will likely affect the orientation
of your
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:13 PM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All!
Regarding [the] understanding that the effect of heavy resistance
creating excessive contact pressure between the articular surfaces of
the knee cap and the trochlear groove in which the knee cap
Related, perhaps, knees-and-cycling question. In the last year or so my
riding area has changed and I spend more time on shorter, steeper hills
instead of long, gradual climbs. Since I ride fixed gears, this means I have
been learning and adapting physiologically and mentally to standing for
I ought to add: 170 mm cranks, about the conventional choice for my leg
length.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Related, perhaps, knees-and-cycling question. In the last year or so my
riding area has changed and I spend more time on shorter, steeper
Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use multiple gears and,
two, I **love** fixed gear climbing, really! Certainly better than slogging
angrily on the flats or spinning vainly and despairingly downhill.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use multiple
gears and, two, I **love** fixed gear climbing, really! Certainly
better than slogging angrily on the flats or spinning vainly and
despairingly downhill.
Those, I take it,
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use multiple
gears and, two, I **love** fixed gear climbing, really! Certainly
better than slogging angrily
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 11:08 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com
wrote:
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use
multiple
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:08, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use multiple
gears and, two, I **love** fixed gear climbing, really! Certainly
better than slogging angrily on
I think Adam A. is showing what you do on the downhills... (guy in
front/left): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4243451052/
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:08, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon,
cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
David - If you're experiencing flare-ups at a certain mileage
threshold, it's possible that your IT band hasn't completely calmed
down from last time you tweaked it.
Even if you're not experiencing pain, the tendon could still be
inflammed. Consider a
Patrick, thanks for the advice on the ice. That was recommended by the Dr.,
but I kind of disregarded it... will start that!
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:
cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
David - If you're experiencing flare-ups at a certain
On Jan 4, 1:48 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a foam roller and have used it a time or two on my IT band.
It's excruciating painful, which wouldn't bother me so much if I knew
how it was supposed to be beneficial.
In theory, the foam roller may help to lengthen/stretch
On Jan 4, 12:39 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
And here's the question: does anyone have any medical information, as
opposed to speculation, about standing and pedalling? Is this any worse for
your knees than a stair stepper?
any worse than, is a relative term, Patrick. Your
I have a foam roller and have used it a time or two on my IT band.
It's excruciating painful, which wouldn't bother me so much if I knew
how it was supposed to be beneficial.
Anne,
The idea behind the foam roller is that it irons out the muscle.
Its supposed to help break up the scar tissue
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:
On Jan 4, 12:39 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
And here's the question: does anyone have any medical information, as
opposed to speculation, about standing and pedalling? Is this any worse
for
your knees
These are the resources that have been mentioned off list. I thought I
would publicly catalog them in one place in case someone else is having
similar problems (and was too shy to speak up!) or has other suggestions.
THANKS!
Local chiropractor/bike fit: http://www.bodyfix.net/
Orthotics:
David,
please report back! My recent knee glitch culminated in me going to
the doctor finally after years of little troubles. What I assumed was
4 years of ignorance of a tear/lack of cartilidge/and or arthritis in
my knee due to lots and lots and lots of running when I was younger
turned out to
One thing I don't do/ever really do is run, so luckily my knees aren't too
beat up. The flip side is I don't get the bone-building benefits of
running, so I probably have brittle frail bird-like bones.
My Doc said cortisone would be a temp fix. There are cortisone patches that
you can use
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