How often is a new frame designed at the same time as a new handlebar?
I really like that idea; people talk about trail, geometry etc. of a
frame, but so much of the feel and steering depends on the handlebar
and the stem, so to have the frame and handlebar designed for each
other makes a lot of se
I know the no-FD feature was advertised in advance, but I'd file off the handle
fasteners and put the FD on there if I had ordered one of the bikes. It looks
it will be a very versatile and cool bike. Given that, I would absolutely want
to keep the option of lever-shifting without having to get
Man, I really like that new frame.
The only thing I dislike is the strap holder thingys, but everything else,
especially with the new bar, is killer. I look forward to the finished
production model!
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> As the former owner of a long-wheelbase recumbent, I can attest that this
> is indeed a wonderful experience..kinda like pedaling a stretched
> chopper.
It was its long wheelbase more than anything that pushed the Trek 728
into the stuff of legend for those who rode it.
On Dec 9, 10:56 pm, Joe
Ok, I know I will get flamed but isn't an igh setup perfect for a casual
rolling flatlands bike like this? Especially if you want to go no front
derailer.
On Dec 9, 2011 8:51 PM, "grant" wrote:
> It does seem nuts, but maybe I've overstated that point to make it
> stand out. We don't need another
I really like the deliberate wrapping flaw. It doesn't quite qualify as a
"flaw in the tapestry", since this is a deliberate big flaw to distract
from small imperfections. I like it all the same.
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Perhaps as was evidenced by my somewhat over-enthusiastic speculations
about a scorcher in the other thread, I'm kind of intrigued by the idea of
building one up as a fixed gear, kind of the polar opposite of the
stereotypical track bike with drop bars, super steep angles and low offset
fork.
*Descending on a long wheelbase is an experience we should all have at
least a few times.*
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As the former owner of a long-wheelbase recumbent, I can attest that this
is indeed a wonderful experience..kinda like pedaling a stretched
chopper. I'm still a little dicey on the assymetrical stays,
It does seem nuts, but maybe I've overstated that point to make it
stand out. We don't need another multiversatile, do-it-all bike (it's
hard to improve on the bikes we have, in that way...I mean, I think).
True, it's not the bike for Japanesey apartments already crowded with
bikes and roomates, bu
Back to the frame. I understand that some folks don't like drop bars.
Designing a bike around the to-be-finalized handlebars seems nuts to
me. The consequences of this design:
1. Much longer top and down tubes (+5ish cm)
2. Much longer chain stays (+4ish cm)
3. Extra frame tube and stays requ
> Jim Thorpe's full name was *Jacobus Franciscus Thorpe*> but his fambly prolly
> own the rights to that.
Or perhaps owned by the good people of Jim Thorpe, PA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Thorpe,_Pennsylvania
There is a "This American Life" segment on the subject well worth a
listen.
- M
Given the rather upright riding position brought about by the somewhat
slack geometry and those handlebars, it seems like one would want
something a bit wider than a B-17 saddle...maybe even a sprung model.
But maybe he just threw it on there because it was convenient for the
quick build.
On Dec
Yeah!!! Otherwise we're just getting too close to another riff on a
Hunqa/Bomba theme.
RGZ
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While we're at it, imagine a rear triangle where each stay is independently
> curvy/asymmetric. That may be a bit too much and it mig
While we're at it, imagine a rear triangle where each stay is independently
curvy/asymmetric. That may be a bit too much and it might ruin the
aesthetics, but imagining it is kind of an interesting exercise.
-Aaron Y.
Rochester, NY
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:43 PM, robert zeidler wrote:
> Sorry
Maybe if they do indeed stiffen the rear triangle, the chainstays and
seatstays could be minimized a bit, lending a more elegant look to it.
Not sure how that would play against the multi-tube front, but those,
like wise could be ever so smaller. Sorry, GP, just thinking out
loud.
On Wed, Dec 7,
And it covers the Francophilia Grant wanted to poke at, since the J stands
for Jacques.
"Myrna Minkoff" might make my magical mixte
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On Dec 7, 7:04 pm, Mike wrote:
Although my hands down favorite name for a Riv bike would be
> the "Ignatius J. Reilly". I'll just shut up now.
>
+1. This bike will make many valves close as it lacks a certain
theology and geometry held closely by the confederacy of dunces.
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Doug - Can't say if that date is meaningful or not. I found the photo
somewhere on the net a while back, pre-Flickr as I recall, and did not want
to lose it so it's likely a screen grab. Date seems about right though, and
I agree it's a great looking bike.
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Marty:
I see the date on the photo of the red custom is 2001. Look at how
tall the head tube is; this is clearly A Big Bike. Somewhere in the
back of my mind is a vague recollection of an article (in the RR??)
about the challenge of building a really large frame for a really big
guy (maybe pro a
The revisionist history at the beginning of the Wed. Blug post is amusing.
It started with Grant feeling a little odd, but grateful, that someone else
built the bike up for him. Now he's all super happy about it. "Hey, it's my
blog, and I reserve the right to change my mind!" ;-)
Joe "I wish I
Clearly Grant is just jumping on the Pinarello asymmetrical bandwagon! ;-)
I like "Slackeur" too, though it sounds like a porteur that's too lazy to
carry anything...
-Pete
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> I think rod operated front derailers are the coolest bike part, ever. I'd
> LOVE
On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 20:37 -0800, Ginz wrote:
> Clanger, maybe, but no one is going to talk
> me out of a front changer. I'm a huge MASH fan, as well.
Clangers and MASH, is that what you're saying?
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I'm also a fan of these changers, the look anyway. I had a chance to buy
an old French bike several years back and passed on it. Kind of regret
that. Anyway, I bet Velo Orange could develop one of these if they
wanted. Steve
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The grouping I posted earlier represented the current-production
diaga-bikes, but let's not forget the earliest members of the family:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tbwmbn/1468660630/in/pool-1641278@N22/ (I
love/want this bike!)
And this custom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/49358
No cable stretch and you'd feel like a Harley rider with a suicide shifter.
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Clanger, maybe, but no one is going to talk
me out of a front changer. I'm a huge MASH fan, as well.
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I think rod operated front derailers are the coolest bike part, ever. I'd LOVE
to have one on my AHH.
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I love the name *Slackeur *for a bike.
And if Rivendell developed a Silver brand manual changer (*Clangeur*?) I
would certainly buy a few.
David G
Madison WI
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Scott G. wrote:
> For shifting front rings every once in a while, a clanger is a cool option.
> The Sim
> For shifting front rings every once in a while, a clanger is a cool option.
> The Simplex and GB made neat ones.
>
> http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/clangers-comp.html
Bring back the Clanger! Seriously, I kind of like that. Thanks for
posting.
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For shifting front rings every once in a while, a clanger is a cool option.
The Simplex and GB made neat ones.
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Guess this means we can start talking about "tentacular fortitude"?
Have to admit having a bike like Grant's idea a few years ago. It was
a Cross Check that was too big for me. Ended up using an Albatross
bar just to be able to ride it. God ride, but ended up being
impractical in winter in Minn
Here's a quick look at the whole family affair - a regular lineage line-up.
I won't debate the tentacularity here, but the diagatuberosity is
impressive!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/6474336541/in/photostream
Marty
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"Tentacular". That's funny. ;-)
I'd still like to see the Slacker bike. I have an Electra Amsterdam that
fits that criteria, and has a bar similar to the NuBar, but without as much
back-reach. The bike's seattube angle falls somewhere between "normal", and
the very-crank-forward Townies Electr
A couple of us speculators suggested the stays were intended to
counteract torsional forces in the rear triangle caused by the drive
being on one side. Seems like as good a story as any, and they look
pretty interesting as well. They are a bit muted with the bike built
up. A front basket would b
The "Colonel Sherman T. Potter" would have been a sweet name for it,
especially as it was "unveiled" on the day Harry Morgan departed this
world. Although my hands down favorite name for a Riv bike would be
the "Ignatius J. Reilly". I'll just shut up now.
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Jim Thorpe's full name was *Jacobus Franciscus Thorpe*
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but his fambly prolly own the rights to that.
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They're not "tentacle" stays...they're "tentacular" ! Good name.
Now, if I could only come up with a theory to explain the asymmetry.
The truth is, when I sent my drawing to Taiwan (yes,this may be a
production bike at some distant point), I sent symmetrical stays, more
like the one of the drive
Still no explanation for the "HS" though. I wonder...
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