[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-21 Thread Johnny Alien
We don't really have bike lanes where I am at so taking the road is for every bike not just assisted ones. And most of the hardcore riders are probably going at least 20 MPH without assistance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-21 Thread ascpgh
What I object to is the differentiation between "assisted" and "powered" being too fine for local government to discern and wield if those e-bike classifications aren't already codified. The drift from "assist" to fully-propelled guided by the mantra of more-is-better is at play here and local

Re: [RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Ian A
As far as I know, Australia classes any bike that is not predominantly powered by the rider as a motorbike. E-assist is only an assist to the rider and therefore still a bicycle, but anything you can turn a throttle and go must be used on the road and be registered and insured. The rider must

Re: [RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Patrick Moore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A0n7PzmKYA Greetings, Garth! On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:43 PM Garth wrote: > > Still ever Still . "The Ride" Rides The Ride One-Self. The Ride > is by nature The Good The True The Unalloyed Wholeyness . > Unchallenged and

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Garth
Still ever Still . "The Ride" Rides The Ride One-Self. The Ride is by nature The Good The True The Unalloyed Wholeyness . Unchallenged and un-challenge-able.for The Ride is Everything and Everything is The Ride :-) -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Shortly after the City of Abuquerque shoved through the extension of Montgomery Boulevard westward over The River against the do or die opposition of riverside property owners in the then-bucolic Los Ranchos district, I recall Harley and rice rocket riders using the bike lane to pass the

Re: [RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
So you'd object to a Class 1 e-bike being ridden in the bike lane (Class 1 motors only run when you turn the pedals, and in Europe anyway, assist stops at 15.5 mph)? I wouldn't quail at lumping Class 2 e-bikes (i.e., throttles but pedaling isn't required) in with motorcycles and motor

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Evan E.
Yep! I, too have no problem with e-bikes and e-scooters and motorcycles and motor scooters. Just as long as they are not in the bike lane — that is, an official lane, at the edge of the street or road, created for pedal-powered bicycles. (It would also be awesome if the various motorized

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-20 Thread Christopher Cote
I'm with you D. Patrick. If it's a cycle with a motor, it's a motorcycle. Electric, gas, whatever. I'm not anti motorcycle, I own and enjoy one. Just keep the motors off the bicycle paths/trails. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-19 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm dim, I realize, but I fail to grasp the "logic" of non-human powered bikes/scooters fitting in the same category as human powered ones just because they are electric instead of gas. With abandon, Patrick, who passed his first ebike group the other day, down hill into a headwind. I

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-19 Thread Evan E.
Good idea to use a pool noodle to establish a safety margin. But in San Francisco, where I commute, one of those noodles would take up nearly the whole bike lane, and then riders on e-bikes and scooters on e-scooters couldn't whoosh past me, in silence, without warning, just inches away, at 20

[RBW] Re: Pool noodle as a safety device

2019-05-18 Thread REC (Roberta)
Interesting. Would be even better to place marks at "1-ft, 2ft, 3 ft--It's the LAW" So that the drivers can see it the . Actually, in PA, where I live, it might be 4 feet. Heck, even a yoga mat mounted like that might deter drivers from trying to pass within inches (or a foot). I ride,