[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Ha! When Christopher posted a link to a different Google Group thread, I was certain it was going to be this one: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/1GtenEm49Ec Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 9:12:22 AM UTC-8, Christopher Cote wrote: > > Hi

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Hi Patrick, have you seen this one? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/cNcGEuM_qWc I'm tempted by it myself for nostalgic reasons, but I really don't need a "go-fast" bike. On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > If you wanted the

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

What about a vigorelli? http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=28_id=307 On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > $600! That is nice, and it's affordable. My brother recently bought a > Black Mountain monster cross frameset (forget name)

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

$600! That is nice, and it's affordable. My brother recently bought a Black Mountain monster cross frameset (forget name) and that too is nice, especially given that he paid half of what I paid for my Matthews, and that Chauncey charged between half and 1/3 of what he should have charged. Thanks

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

So, I didn't see it mentioned so I'll mention it... Mike Varley at Black Mountain Cycles His Road is fantastic bike in the Riv Road-esque bike and for a great price... May not tick all your boxes, but is a fantastic bike! http://blackmtncycles.com/frames/road-frames/ Chris On

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Thanks for this, Bill. Actually, I haven't yet gotten to the "what do I really want divided by what can I really afford" part of the equation, though I look back and tearfully sniff with nostalgia at that 1973 Motobecane I got for about $75 shipped, about 2/3 of which was shipping (eBay seller

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Patrick, after all these years I understand you going through bikes more often than I go through pairs of socks. But I do think you should post a price range you have in mind. To wit, there is a young man at work from Grand Junction with a 1978 Miyata (I remember a Prestige decal, but didn't

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

And those were really handsome bikes too...I think they may have had Henry James lugs On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 11:03:40 AM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote: > > I'm fond of my '87 Trek 560. It's from "back in the day" when they had to > sell the Trek brand and still produced Reynolds frames

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

I'm fond of my '87 Trek 560. It's from "back in the day" when they had to sell the Trek brand and still produced Reynolds frames with branded lugs by hand in the USA. I remember thinking "Wisconsin? That's not even close to Italy!" I've updated most of the components, went to 700C wheels so

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Aren't they coming out with a single speed frame at a lower price point - the frank Jones Sr.? IF you can wait, I imagine that one'll ride like a Rivendell. Sky in new west On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > If you wanted the signature Rivendell road

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

For sure - Did you see the price? pretty great. I'd grab it if I needed a frame On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:13 AM, JohnS wrote: > Thanks for the heads up on the Holdsworth. The Holdsworth La Quelda looks > like it would be perfect as a fixed gear commuter. > > JohnS > > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Thanks for the heads up on the Holdsworth. The Holdsworth La Quelda looks like it would be perfect as a fixed gear commuter. JohnS On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:16:05 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Has this been mentioned? > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Has this been mentioned? http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRHOZPH/holdsworth-zephyr-frameset -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Hi Patrick...you know I've often sung the praises of my early 70's PX-10 which certainly has the bad paint...think the oln might be 126 and I'm sure one in decent condition could be had for not too much. Mine was retrofitted with a VO threadless bottom bracket, a cobbled together out of mostly

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Here is an affordable complete 53cm Roadeo with not many miles on it at all: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/CZjWsCYPWoM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Ray -- "Nice" is fine, too. Thanks. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Ray Varella wrote: > That was a typo on my part Patrick. > I intended to write "nice riding" not naive. > > Ray > Vallejo CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

That was a typo on my part Patrick. I intended to write "nice riding" not naive. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep a sharp eye out for a good old racing frame from the pre-crit era with horizontal dropouts and bad paint, for cheap. And if anyone has more personal experience comparing particular makes/models with Rivendell road models, I'd like to hear from him/her. I think

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Patrick, I think you alone understand what you are looking for and how best to scratch the itch. However, if I found myself in your position, I might give a call to Ken Wallace at the Bisbee Bicycle Brothel , in Bisbee Arizona. He's got more

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Here you go, Patrick: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/5886134408.html :-) On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford > another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

The guy from whom I bought my yellow ST also sent a picture of his dusty 1970 in silver mist, actually in his attic. I tried several times to wake that one up, too, but it's still sleeping in the attic in Cleveland. Ebay has a Paramount P15 for $1450 right now, chrome Nervex lugs and silver

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Yup, Igor here.. Honestly I am not entirely sure - you'd have to look at Mercian geometry or contact BJ...most of their frames are NxN - but I saw some old ones on ebay with longer top tubes than seat tubes, if that is what you are after - There is a Mercian on ebay right now that has a 52 or

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

I had a Holdsworth which had a nice relaxed riding position, took long reach brakes and fit a 35mm tire, 120mm rear spacing and Reynolds 531 Very naive riding bike. A Raleigh International, similar to the Holdsworth. I looked at a few Raleigh Grand Prixs that ticked the same boxes. A good

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

those old sports tourers are really beatiful bikes! there's a guy here in philly who has a collection of them in different colors. if i hadn't bought my used hilsen, this would probably be something i'd be keeping an eye out for. unfortunately, all of the later 80's era frames (even touring)

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

What size wheels/tires you hoping to run? Not sure if it would handle "like a Riv" but maybe something in old Raleigh Competition/Professional/International/Super Course family? Many of those have 120 OLD. KJ On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > If you

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

This is quite simple . *wanting wants . *The nature of wanting IS wanting. Since wanting is forever wanting, completely and utterly, it cannot be satisfied, not even with itself because it's always wanting. All wanting could possibly be is wanting. Satisfaction alone IS

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Jim: the AM was a clubmen's (and doubtless clubwomen's) hub, with freewheel, that had medium gaps as described -- direct, + 11.55%, - 12.5%. I could set it up, for example, with a ~70" direct 2nd and have a 78" high/3d and a 61" 1st/low, an excellent spread for my riding. (SA made 3 speed hubs for

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Is your name Igor? Or am I confusing you with another poster? If so, sorry. Thanks. What models were these? And to be clear: you've found these to mimic Rivendell road bikes' handling? I mean the signature stability with intuitive or even unthinking perfection in turn-in. I want ideas about a

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

I enjoy your "looking for hen's teeth" quests. Is this to be another fixie? What's an AM hub? It sounds like you want some one who is familiar with the Riv ride and is also old enough to have ridden a bunch of '70s bikes so they can recommend one that is obscure enough not to command a

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Bob Jackson? Mercian (Enjoy waiting a year for it, though, if ordering new) On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 6:36:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Yeah, but I want *more.* > > Anyone? > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Garth > wrote: > >> >> Don't you already have

Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Yeah, but I want *more.* Anyone? On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Garth wrote: > > Don't you already have a Rivendell (or 2 or 3 or more)? Howz that for > "cheap" , you don't even have to pay for it to ride one ! > > -- > You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

Don't you already have a Rivendell (or 2 or 3 or more)? Howz that for "cheap" , you don't even have to pay for it to ride one ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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I forgot to mention the father and son duo I passed on the way home, father riding a nondescript mountain bike in street clothes, and boy about 10 or 11 on a cute li'l 24" wheel Pinarello, in bike kit -- a pint sized Pinarello. For all I know, the adult could have been the boy's coach. On Sat,