[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-08-28 Thread Wally Estrella
An update, of sorts, I think and hope ;) I finally and recently received a PW built rear wheel w/ a double freewheel on it. The chainline seems just fine. I didn't check dimensions on it, but looks fine. I must've been more worried about the numbers than operation of it, thus posted the orig

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-03-04 Thread Philip Williamson
Amen. I run 9sp chains across all bikes except the 8sp bike, which is doomed. In 15 odd years of fixed gear riding, "Sure that looks okay" has been fine. The few times I've ended up with 1/8" gear, I've killed it with fire. That's like running DOS in a production environment. My Phil singlespee

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-23 Thread Jeremy Till
Wow! Color me surprised if that really is the case that the FW side is 46mm chainline. Also, it's a real bummer that Phil doesn't list this info on their website. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:10:59 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella wrote: > > The 46 was given to me by Phil Wood sales staff. I'v

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-23 Thread Wally Estrella
The 46 was given to me by Phil Wood sales staff. I've seen it somewhere also, let me see if I can dig that up Yes, the Paul hubs are @ 44. I'm not sure about WI. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote: > > Hey Wally- > > Can I ask where you read that the ch

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-23 Thread Matt B.
As Eric pointed out, for singlespeed cogs 4mm of offset is not an issue. There've been zero problems using a White Ind Dos Eno (dual) 16/19 cog (not technically singlespeed but same tooth profile), on my QB for several years, using either chain ring on the stock crank. -- You received this m

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Jeremy Till
Hey Wally- Can I ask where you read that the chainline on the Phil hub was 42mm on the fixed side and 46mm on the freewheel side? I've been working on flip-flop hubs for a long time, I even had Phil one for a while (not on the QB, on my erstwhile Salsa Casseroll), and I've never heard that bef

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread ted
Wally, You said your friend is supplying a sugino 75 crankset, and mentioned 1/8" chain. Though regular road chains, rings and cogs are fairly forgiving with respect to chain line (as others have noted), 1/8" track stuff can be more finicky. I have an 1/8" sugino ring and a 1/8" euro asia cog

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Patrick Moore
The cog-to-cog distance, center of cogs, for 10 speed is 4 mm (3.95 mm), so I think that even with a flexible chain, but with a single speed cog, you'd be fine, unless perhaps the chain was very loose. Even the cog center to cog center distance for a "typical 5 speed", per Sheldon, is only 5.5 mm.

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Eric Norris
The only problems I have every had with chains coming off on a SS or fixed gear bicycle happened when using a multi-speed cog. In retrospect, I should have realized that multi-speed cogs are *designed* to derail. SS/fixed cogs have taller teeth that lack ramps, all of which helps keep the chain

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Ian A
On a single speed, would a 4mm offset cause a greater tendancy to derail? On my my SS set up (vertical drop outs) I used a cassette hub and adjusted the spacers on the hub until the chain didn't want to derail itself. It is a multispeed chain and there's a Surly tensioner, but even with the tens

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Wally Estrella
A buddy will be giving me a very nice condition Sugino 75 track crankset. Being tempted w/ this I might as well upgrade other items on the drive train a get a Phil hub. With that a Phil BB would be ordered to get the adjustment to keep the 1/8" chain straight to somewhat straight. -- You re

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Eric Norris
If you’re running a road (multi speed) chain on your QB, this is all moot anyway. Road chains are designed to work at a variety of angles as you shift from on cog to another and one chainring to another. There is perhaps a theoretical increase in efficiency from having a chain running perfectly

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread iamkeith
Wally, If I understand your question correctly, you're thinking about moving the chain outward to match the chainline of the Phil hub, by using a front chainring in the outer position instead of the middle position that Quickbeams used orginally? That 'might' work fine, but it's not the easie

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-22 Thread Wally Estrella
HI Ted: the chainline on the QB is 42, from what I've read, the chain line on a PW freewheel track hub is 46. So, yeah, I guess that's what I'm confusingly asking. Would there be any clearance issues w/ a 46 chain line and going up larger on either the chain ring or cog as? Sorry, just overth

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-21 Thread ted
Hey Wally, Im not clear on what you are concerned about, and my bike is a SO instead of a QB, but I've got a 44t ring at ~42mm chain line on a short (107?) PW bottom bracket. No problem with clearance, if that helps at all. On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella wrot

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

2017-02-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
My QB has a Phil freewheel flip hub and the chain line works perfectly. I can't speak to the metrics and if they match what you mentioned or not. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 12:24:21 PM UTC-7, Wally Estrella wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > I've seen numerous pictures of QBs w