My only quibble was that you put the Hillborne and the Hilsen in 'totally
the same camp' as the Appaloosa in terms of geometry. The geometry
differences between the Hilsen and Hillborne are tiny. The Hilborne and
Hilsen belong totally in the same camp. The geometry differences between
those
I never said that a Hilson couldn't be snappy. My point was geometry DOES
play a factor. It can't be ignored. Otherwise Rivendell or hell every bike
company might as well make two nice frames (a diamond and a step through)
and let people build them to meet their needs. Rivendell DOES have a lot
*great color.
On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Two other criteria you haven't mentioned about Homer is it's a
> fully-lugged frame and comes in a gear color. If I were on the fence
> between those two I'd jump for the Homer for those reasons alone.
>
Two other criteria you haven't mentioned about Homer is it's a fully-lugged
frame and comes in a gear color. If I were on the fence between those two
I'd jump for the Homer for those reasons alone.
One way to do this - since you'll be selling a bike either way - is get the
Homer first and
Johnny shared his opinion that "the Appaloosa, Homer and Sam are all
totally in the same camp", which in context is a different camp from the
Roadini. Johnny is characterizing that Appa, Homer, Sam camp as LONG
wheelbase bikes.
Here are five bikes in my size. Pulling the numbers from the
Thank you. I ran into that exact trouble with my Sam, which is why it ended
up like the Appaloosa. As it stands, I have plenty of parts to build a
complete Homer *and* keep the Roadini as is. I would likely use a dynamo (I
have an extra Son in my bin), a Mark's rack up front*, *and a BananaSax
I don't think its ALL about the build although that plays a major part.
There is certainly geometry differences and those LONG wheelbases play into
how lively a bike feels. IMO the Appaloosa, Homer and Sam are all totally
in the same camp and if you thought the Sam was too close to the Appa
In my opinion, if you swapped your build kit from a Roadini to a Homer, the
only parts that would have to change would be the rear hub and the brake
calipers. If that's the only things that changed, the resulting complete
bike would be within a pound. In my opinion, that build would feel just
Hi Bones,
We all like to tinker with bikes and try new things... if you have some
appetite for a Homer, just go for it - you won't be disappointed. If you
want racks then the Homer is the way to go, but be aware that if you add
racks, bags, etc... it might not feel as zippy anymore.
After
Thank you.
I suppose I should include where this bike would fit in my lineup: For
riding with kids, I have my ClemXtracycle For commuting, knocking around
town I have a single speed with a basket rack. I also have a very lean
single speed with higher gearing and jack browns, which essentially
Good morning,
I don't have any personal experience with Sams or Homers, but going of what
you are describing and what Riv says, here's my take...
You're right in thinking that Homer will be between Sam and Roadini, but I
think it's almost identical outside of color, brake type, and according to
Hi Bones,
I have a Homer and love it. It's a great all-rounder for my purposes.
(Commuting, riding w/kids, running errands, rec riding to enjoy the day.)
But I have a stripped down faster bike when that's what I want.
(Have you tried narrower tires? Does it impact your ride given the roads
you
Get it, Validate it as your bike to lock up outside the cafe. I'd never
want to lock up a Homer, too pretty!
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Ah, Patrick, you're the voice of reason. Thanks for that. As for the rest
of you enablers, thanks for that, too. :)
Thanks, Ed, for the reminder of the Roadini vs Sam thread. I'll look it up
and get that angle. And, I'll start another thread for a more general +1
discussion.
Tim
On Wed,
I have a Roadini set up as a "roadie" (no fenders or rack, and just a small
saddlesack for stuff) and I weigh 215 lbs. Sadly, not a Homer owner (yet)
but I do have an Appaloosa and lots of folks weighed in on a Roadini vs Sam
discussion recently.
Based on that, the "stripped down" part of your
Great excuse, but mininimal practicable difference for a non-racer is my guess
based on experience with my similar yet wider apart hunqa v QB. If you need an
excuse, you have it! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I think the lighter bike feels different enough to warrant having it. I
bought a used Riv Custom off the this list as a partner to my fendered and
dyno equipped Homer. There is a bout a 7lb difference between them, so not
really a huge difference but the Custom gives a different feel when
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