Yep - I really wanted a bike that worked well with Albatross bars and the
Cheviot I read was built around it. My other bikes are a Hunq/Albastache
and Gunnar/drops. Only thing I need to add now is a quickbeam or quickbeam
successor with Jitensha bars. And my life will be complete. No more new
b
Congrats! It will be a great ride.
Are you going Albas for the cockpit?
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:03 PM, DS wrote:
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> alright, #@)* it. getting a cheviot. rode one today a bit around walnut
> creek. so long hard earned money. hello new bike (next month).
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alright, #@)* it. getting a cheviot. rode one today a bit around walnut
creek. so long hard earned money. hello new bike (next month).
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Yeah, no-handed rideability probably has many contributing factors besides
wheelbase, front end geometry being on the list of course
On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:28:57 AM UTC-7, Evan wrote:
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> Thanks, Bill, for answering. Chainstay length may indeed make little, if
> any, difference. And
Thanks, Bill, for answering. Chainstay length may indeed make little, if
any, difference. And Jim W. makes a good point about uprightness. All that
said, I find it easier to ride no-hands on my 1969 Raleigh Competition (~47
cm stays) than I do on my 1986 Univega Gran Rally (~43 cm), each bike wi
Neither ! lolToo short in top tube for I . I choose a custom ,
unless another model comes out :)
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generally lengthened during a number of years that has coincided with new, more upright cockpit options.
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-Original Message- From: Bill Lindsay Sent: Sep 19, 2014 7:10 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all ro
Fantastic response Bill--a model of clarity, thoroughness, and
thoughtfulness. I have no stake in this debate; just thought your response
was a good one. As for me, I really have no idea of the chainstay lengths
on my Terraferma, my Jones, my LHT, or Salsa Spearfish, nor own my now sold
Hunqa
Hi Evan
I would not claim to have made any conclusions for myself on this topic. I
haven't gone out of my way to set up two identical bikes where the only
difference is chainstay length and ride them extensively. Grant, Keven and
Jan all have done exactly that experiment, and all three of the
I was rather surprised to find that the chainstays of my Ram are 1-1.5 cm
shorter than those on my 2 customs -- 43.5 per the geom chart versus 44.5
(center of horizontal dropouts) and yet the customs handle a bit quicker
than does the Ram. The customs exhibit an unerring straight line stability
whi
Hi Bill,
If chainstay length doesn't matter/makes no difference in ride
quality--such as making a bike more or less stable, or lively, or able to
climb well--then why bother to make a bike (such as Cheviot) with long
chainstays and another bike (such as Yves) with medium chainstays and
another
Matt
I was merely pointing out the counter-opinion to your humble opinion that
chainstay length has something to do with ride quality. Your opinion is
the majority opinion, no question. Jan and Grant have a different opinion,
that's all. They are in the minority, but they might be right.
Bill, I will not disagree that the Betty Foy, Chevoit and Appaloosa are all
fun to ride, but I would hope they all have different ride characteristics.
Otherwise, we would simply be debating colors and head badges.
Matt
On Friday, September 19, 2014 7:10:41 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> I
Jan disagrees with the notion that short chainstays result in a sportier
ride.
"Some riders and builders believe that longer chainstays make the bike more
stableIn practice, we have found chainstay length does not noticeably
influence the bike's stability."
Bicycle Quarterly Volume 10 No
I did look into they Yves a bit and kind of remember it from the website
back in the day when I could only window shop. Totally open to that too.
Can't recall every seeing one pop up for sale on the list or my saved ebay
searches though.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:53 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owne
DS, if you are leaning towards a Mixte have you considered a discontinued
Betty Foy or the manly Yves Gomez? I ask, because I see a trend happening
at Rivendell where the chain stays keep getting longer and longer. And I
"think" the chain stays on the Chevoit are longer than the previous mode
A lot of love for the Cheviot! The single set of water bottle mounts is
strange for rivendell. But agreed, the only time i'd really need two sets
are for s240's and i can carry additional water in a rack or bag at that
point. Step thru definitely seems to be an important piece here. And I
defi
Thinking about it for a bit, the only drawback to the Cheviot is the lack
of bottle cage mounts. The 55 has one. A second one could go on the down
tube as on the Sam. Sure there is a reason for it being the way it is.
Using a Pass and Stow porteur rack with a Freight Baggage rack bag so there
plent
Cheviot. Three reasons:
1) long chainstays give you great pannier clearance.
2) the second set of seat stays = really strong rear triangle = great for
cargo trailers.
3) mixte bikes are less attractive to thieves.
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:57:43 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
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> While I patient
Step-throughs are really great. Can't say enough good things about them!
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:41:09 PM UTC-7, danmc wrote:
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> I went Cheviot for just those purposes. Actually for rear-mounted child
> seat but the ability to stand without worry is a big plus in either child
> seat s
I went Cheviot for just those purposes. Actually for rear-mounted child
seat but the ability to stand without worry is a big plus in either child
seat scenario. Also figured that a step-through frame would be a bonus as
the years go by. And the Cheviot is still a great bike for trails and S24Os.
T
Color collecting is a big part of it. I was projecting my desire for a
barfo green Cheviut onto you. I already have three orange bikes and zero
green ones, so
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, DS wrote:
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> Yeah, I don't know about that color, maybe it looks awesome in pers
Yeah, I don't know about that color, maybe it looks awesome in person,
anyway...already got a green bike ;). Isn't the whole n+1 thing about
collecting colors anyway?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> I'd preorder a Cheviut in that swank new metallic barfo green. You can be
I'd preorder a Cheviut in that swank new metallic barfo green. You can be
the first person to get one!
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:57:43 PM UTC-7, DS wrote:
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> While I patiently wait for a 54cm Quickbeam (ahemanyone?) to show up
> for sale one place or another, I'm starting to think
Hi DS,
Since you've got a Hunqapillar and a go-fast-ish, I also vote for the
Cheviot. I'm also curious about the ride having those lng chain stays.
You could wait for the Clem, Appaloosa, etc.,... but who knows when/if
they'll be available.
shoji
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:57:43 PM
I have a Sam, and i'd vote for the Cheviot. I use a QB (sorry 60cm :) ) as
a general cruiser and the high top tube is a pain sometimes with a lot of
things in the basket.
The Sam would work fine, but the Cheviot is more practical to me.
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:57:43 PM UTC-4, DS wr
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