[RBW] Re: Stovetop Espresso (moka pot) tips please

2017-01-04 Thread sameness
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 9:52:54 AM UTC-8, lum gim fong wrote: > > Jittery, shallow breathing, and mental confusion, fatigue. Feel awful. > All I can do is just crawling to bed and sleep it off. > I feel the same way up until my third cup! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You

[RBW] Re: Stovetop Espresso (moka pot) tips please

2017-01-04 Thread lum gim fong
One cup of coffee and my day is ruined. Jittery, shallow breathing, and mental confusion, fatigue. Feel awful. All I can do is just crawling to bed and sleep it off. I can handle soda and tea caffeine fine though. Odd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2017-01-04 Thread Patch T
I got a lovely stainless steel mokapot off Etsy recently. They have a pretty cool and wide-ranged selection of used and vintage mokas. Some very pricey, some not. Used to use Bialetti; loved it, still have it around, but trying to cut aluminum out of my life :) I do like flushing my stainless

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2017-01-03 Thread Andreas
Here are my steps: Roast green beans, cool immediately after roasting (Just deposit them outside in NNE) Aerate for 6 hours airtight container overnight Grind as recommended here - on a Baratza Virtuosa I use setting 20 (espresso is 14, french press is 32 for me) Use cold water, we have a

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2016-12-27 Thread Surlyprof
I'm pretty persnickety as well and the best stovetop "machine" I've ever used is the Alessi 9090/6. I got it originally because I had the chance to buy it when we toured Alessi's in-house museum in Omenga, Italy. It was factory discounted and I was amused by the fact that the initial

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2016-12-27 Thread Shawn Granton
I've been using a moka pot pretty much daily for the past ten years. I got a stainless steel one from IKEA (horrors) back then and still use that same one. (Mine was made in Italy, the newer ones offered by the Swedish retailer are Chinese made.) And turn the other way, but I clean that pot

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2016-12-27 Thread Will
You can dink around with coffee forever. The best brew in my experience is vacuum. 200 degree water, just off the boil, fills the bowl, deeply infuses the grounds, and voila... You can use very fine grind and brew what is essentially espresso, or perc-ground and have regular. Watch ebay for

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2016-12-27 Thread Trenker
Just make coffee. You don't need to purchase a certain brand name. You are trying to buy an experience based on advertising and what random strangers on the internet recommend according to what they bought. But you probably have everything you need there already. -- You received this

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2016-12-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
I should also mention I'm using a medium roast with nutty and chocolate notes. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 7:35:23 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Jeff and Jim, > > Nailed it! Grind is 10 notches finer on our Lido grinder than for our > pour-over. Med-low heat

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2016-12-27 Thread Brad
About 20 years ago an Italian co-worker taught me to make coffee with a moka pot and her instructions were exactly the same as Jeff's, right down to never ever cleaning the pot! Brad Queens On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 10:24:50 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote: > > Dial in your grind. Not as fine

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2016-12-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Jeff and Jim, Nailed it! Grind is 10 notches finer on our Lido grinder than for our pour-over. Med-low heat (starting with cold water). Remove from flame half way up the spout (before any sputtering). Deep, rich, smooth, stove-top espresso! Like a good whisky (which almost exclusively comes

Re: [RBW] Re: Stovetop Espresso (moka pot) tips please

2016-12-27 Thread Eric Floden
I keep thinking of this as l read this thread... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=03N4_pElwOA A cup pf my famous Java... Eric Floden Peterborough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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2016-12-27 Thread ascpgh
Couldn't help it: https://youtu.be/w-ia13f72-4 Andy Cheatham PIttsburgh On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 12:41:55 AM UTC-5, sameness wrote: > > The classic Bialetti moka pot is aluminum. While I have never tasted the > aluminum, the idea behind not cleaning much or at all is to season the >

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2016-12-26 Thread Christopher Murray
The biggest issue with these is heat control. Tips: 1: boil the water separately and pour into the reservoir. You have to be careful here. I put the base on a towel, loosely screw the top on, and only pick it up with towel for the final tightening. 2: use low-medium heat with the lid open

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2016-12-26 Thread Christopher Murray
Aeropress had a problem with the plastic sometime about 2-3 years ago. The plastic developed stress cracks. They changed the plastic and sent replacements free of charge. This is the dilemma with plastic. They thought the bad plastic was good until they found out it was bad. Now the new plastic

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2016-12-26 Thread sameness
The classic Bialetti moka pot is aluminum. While I have never tasted the aluminum, the idea behind not cleaning much or at all is to season the interior with coffee oils to mitigate this effect. Bialetti and others make stainless moka pots. Never owned one, but I have been served from one

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2016-12-26 Thread bo richardson
is the bialatti stainless? my stainless is out in the shed i always thought i could taste the aluminum in the aluminum espresso pots i love my aeropress. i think the rocket scientist who invented the aeropress shopped hard for the correct plastic. -- You received this message because you are

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2016-12-26 Thread sameness
I don't think a moka pot is a better delivery system than an Aeropress per se, just depends on what you want outta your cup of coffee. I'm not a huge fan of the bright and the floral and the nuanced typical of $20-a-pound 3rd Wave beans, and which an Aeropress handles with aplomb. I'm back

Re: [RBW] Re: Stovetop Espresso (moka pot) tips please

2016-12-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
That is an issue I had never heard of. Very strange. I have had a couple of Aeropress in nearly constant use since about 2006 and have had zero issues with either one of them. They are still going strong. If you wanted metal, I guess you have a stainless version of an Aeropress fabricated.

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2016-12-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Why'd I bail on Aeropress when it makes a great cup of coffee? Easy. Plastic. It bubbled. Aeropress replaced it, saying they've updated it. Plastic ain't for me. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 8:25:11 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote: > > Not trying to be the typical nay saying

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2016-12-26 Thread Jim M.
I'll second Jeff's instructions. The grind is important. Don't tamp like you would with an espresso maker. Fill the funnel and smooth the top. I use a sort of medium low flame, one that doesn't quite reach the edges of the pot. And I'll disagree with the others and say well made Bialetti coffee

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2016-12-26 Thread sameness
Dial in your grind. Not as fine as espresso, not as coarse as pour over. Totally depends on your grinder, but be prepared to experiment. Don't pack the grounds too tight. Fill the... whatever-it's-called to overflowing, then scrape flat across. I use my finger. Make sure it's really cranked

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2016-12-26 Thread eflayer
Not trying to be the typical nay saying internet guy, but why futz? Aeropress your cares away! No mutz, no futz. On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 6:30:59 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I have a Bialetti Kitty 4 cup I am not smart enough to make good coffee > with. It seems very persnickety

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2016-12-26 Thread Jeremy Tavan
As a dedicated Italophile, I find myself wishing I could love moka pot (macchinetta) coffee. I've tried. A lot. But the sad truth is that they just don't make great coffee compared to other methods. If you want espresso, you can't substitute a moka pot for a proper macchina. If you want strong