[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread RDS
Thanks for the info. Does anyone know if the Sugino double or triple is Shimano STI shifter compatable? On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:37:29 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote: yes, works fine. The set up you describe is working well on my Gunnar Crosshairs, commuter. Pics here:

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread sameness
Man, at least light a candle and open some wine first. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:39:00 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote: another lurid view: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752341602/in/album-72157645542691980/ On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-10 Thread reynoldslugs
another lurid view: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752341602/in/album-72157645542691980/ On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote: Whoa. Those cranks need to be tagged NSFW. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA Max -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
I have a compact double, 42/25T, 12-29 rear, and the Ultegra CX-70 that Riv sells is the Perfect front derailleur. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aP3150004.jpg As far as the RD and range, just do a chain wrap calculation, compare to the RD spec, and

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Clayton.sf
Note that even though the cx70 is a double front derailer it worked well for me with a triple sugino too. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread reynoldslugs
sorry everyone, that's obviously an NOS Superbe Pro on my Heron, not a new Sun XCD. Both work well. I did put a Sun XCD on my Legolas (which has the new Sugino wide range 26-40) and it works very, very well. Legolas here:

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
Clayton- The CX-70--and many other double FDs--can work fine with a triple crankset. Except with Shimano STIs, which is the OP's question. Jan Heine covered this particular issue well. It's the same article where he praises the CX-70, btw.

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread sameness
Whoa. Those cranks need to be tagged NSFW. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote: sorry everyone, that's obviously an NOS Superbe Pro on my Heron, not a new Sun XCD. Both work well. I did put a Sun XCD on my Legolas (which

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Avery Wilson
Another not directly related answer, but I use campagnolo ergo shifters with 8 speeds in the back, and a wide-low double up front. Works great. I can shift all 8 gears in the back with the front on the 42 tooth, no rubbing or noise, and don't even need to trim. That said, campy ergo front

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
As others have mentioned, the biggest issue will be finding a compatible front derailleur. Shimano STI shifters work with road front derailleurs, not with mountain ones. Road triples are optmized around a larger crankset, like 50/39/30, and generally have longer cages that could hit the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
Yes, that should present no problem. Double shifting isn't so picky, and the CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings). Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for trimming. I don't know when / what product level Shimano incorporated these, though. A

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread RDS
Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be compatible with the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank? On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:22:25 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: Are the Sugino cranks that Riv sells (Triple (46/36/24) or Wide/Lo double) compatible with 9 Speed

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread reynoldslugs
The Sun XCD front derailleur works well for the wide-range front double. I am using that setup on my Heron 650B: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/13018667345/in/album-72157642068014924/ Works great. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
How do you use/shift this? 1 by x with a granny? Or do you use it like a real double? - Original Message - From: Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:34:55 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Avery E Wilson
...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:34:55 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ?? On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:45:50 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: Yes, that should present no problem. Double shifting

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:45:50 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: Yes, that should present no problem. Double shifting isn't so picky, and the CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings). Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for trimming. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
hi Steve, I use it mostly as a granny, and am most always on the 42T for pavement riding. However, I have 14% grades to get to my house. So I will shift to the 25T and use the full range for approach gears. The range on the 25T also covers most off-road needs and keeps the RD up out of

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
ps, the 5 narrow gears 63-88 inches is where I live on pavement On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:58:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: hi Steve, I use it mostly as a granny, and am most always on the 42T for pavement riding. However, I have 14% grades to get to my house. So I will shift to the

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-08 Thread reynoldslugs
yes, works fine. The set up you describe is working well on my Gunnar Crosshairs, commuter. Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157628055130729 Mine is either 24-40 or 26-40. with an 11-34. I am able to use the full cassette on the large (40) chainring, but not

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-08 Thread David Person
Not directly related to your question but I'm running a Herse crank with 44/28 on my Sam and I had to use a Shimano CX-70 derailleur if I wanted to set the cage height at the recommended 1-3mm above the large chainring. I tried using a Shimano 105 and could not lower it enough before the

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-08 Thread Richard L
By STI, I'm guessing you mean integrated shifters and brake levers? If so, my dated experience with 9-speed STI and a 46t chain ring was that front derailleur shifting was poor and the drive train was plagued with constant noise. After several mechanics could not fix the problem, switching to