Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Very good point, Jeremy. I like the looks of my Rivendells, but looks are as nothing compared to the fit and handling and "feel" of them, which each of the 5 Rivs I've owned has exhibited in one degree or another, but enough that it is set apart by this from any other bike I've owned. It's this

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-26 Thread Jeremy Till
Indeed to further the argument, I would suggest that what Grant is doing with the "cruiser" bikes (by which I mean the proportional chainstay bikes like the Cheviot, Clem, and Appaloosa) is very much trying to achieve the handling of those early road-ish bikes but for an upright fit and wider

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-26 Thread Les Lammers
I'll add that the Cheviot, for a cruiser, is no slug either. On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 3:50:58 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > I certainly get what you are saying Joe about the "cruisers" versus the > "road" type of bikes. I just would add that my Joe Appaloosa is far > livelier than

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-25 Thread Patrick Moore
For the record, I wasn't being snide or trying to deprecate when I used the word "cruisers" -- I think that the word fits; they're very nice and fun to ride and sporty cruisers. And -- I'm 62 -- in 10 years, heck, I may be saving pennies for a Clem or Joe or similar. As to Joe's hypothesis: I

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-25 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I certainly get what you are saying Joe about the "cruisers" versus the "road" type of bikes. I just would add that my Joe Appaloosa is far livelier than what most people would put into a cruiser category. Really a fun ride and it gets up and going quite nicely for me. On Tuesday, July 25,

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-25 Thread Craig Montgomery
Ordered mine in '96 and took possession in '97. Still my main squeeze though I've put a low trail fork on it and converted to 650B. The first tour: https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/4354670656/in/album-72157622053427539/ The last (as in most recent) tour:

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Ugh, I need an edit button. "Nice" near the end is "niche". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-24 Thread Joe Bernard
I think the transition was inevitable based on the rides Grant & Co. actually do, and the bikes he was specifically designing for them at Bridgestone. The Road, LongLow, Heron Road and Rambouillet were all extensions of the RB-1, which was probably considered an expected bike from Rivendell in

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-24 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1. Me, I sense that Jan rather regrets the old Rivendell days and models -- old, versatile, but still race-connected, steel road bike. I do too, but so what: Grant has found a market and, almost more important, a group of aficionados, who love the current "cruiser" bikes; certainly, such a deep

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-24 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thank you Jan, for distilling history and offering this heart filled tribute to what has been so rewarding to so many of us Michel On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 1:41:34 PM UTC-4, Austin B wrote: > > As seen on the Facebook Riv group: > > 1995 Rivendell: Turning the Tide >

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-24 Thread Ryan Fleming
actually when you enlarge it, it shows up pretty well. A classic! On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 2:56:03 PM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: > > Bill, > > Chameleon paint was a production paint choice for an upcharge, $90 if > memory serves. It's purple-green that doesn't show well in photography, > especially

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-23 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Bill, Chameleon paint was a production paint choice for an upcharge, $90 if memory serves. It's purple-green that doesn't show well in photography, especially crappy cell-phone photography. On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-6, William R. wrote: > Mojo: beautiful AllRounder. Re: the

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-23 Thread William R.
Mojo: beautiful AllRounder. Re: the chameleon paint: was that a production color, custom or custom repaint? Great write up in the summer issue of BQ. First thing I read when I got my copy in the mail. Bill in Westchester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Terrific Writeup on the origins of Rivendell by Jan Heine

2017-07-23 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I bought a 1995 AllRounder (delivered Jan 1996) and have kept it all these years. Waterford built, Reynolds 753 tubing, Richard Sachs lugs, chameleon paint, room for 2.0 inch tires, what's not too love? Well, my racing-mentality sizing is not to love. I chose a 58cm frame for my 89cm PBH.