I have an Atlantis with a Tubus Logo Evo rear rack. I heavily load one
pannier (right hand side) frequently. Has never shimmied.
I think a good deal of this shimmy business is due to folks using poor
cargo systems. Yes, I know Riv promotes saddlebags, but riding with high
weight isn't wise. Al
Yes, this is what I'm looking for: "Note to that on every bike I can
comfortable go down hill holding my floppy hat on my head with one hand and
other hand lightly on the bar with zero shimmy or even a trace..."
I think I just need to pack better, I like the forward of rear axle idea.
That
" If I bought an Atlantis expecting it to carry a load and it couldn't, I'd
be upset. "
It's a matter of placement, balance, and load security. The bike is fine;
it's how we choose to use it that can cause variations in handling. Lot's
of trial & lots of error went into my learning experience
Try putting your knee against the top tube. I know for me at some speed
shimmy can be induced or begin and my knee calms it right down.
That being said.. my theories.. right wrong ... shrug.. just me thinking..
1. On my larger framed bike with larger tires I get shimmy free handed...
non o
Doug:
Shops have tools specific to the job. I do nearly all my own work but have
the shop change out the headset. I just take things apart down to removing
the fork. I made an appt for a day when they expected to be slow, walked
in & they R&R the headset while I waited & watched. All they h
Doug,
Any reputable bike shop will swap your headset for about $25~30. YMMV.
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Doug Williams wrote:
> I just got a new
On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:57:12 AM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:
>
> I just got a new Homer and love it. I did get a small amount of shimmy
> when I had my SaddleSack Large fully loaded on an R14 rack with no other
> weight anywhere else. But really...I have a Mark's front rack so there is
> n
I just got a new Homer and love it. I did get a small amount of shimmy when
I had my SaddleSack Large fully loaded on an R14 rack with no other weight
anywhere else. But really...I have a Mark's front rack so there is no
excuse for that. I added a basket on the front so I'll put some weight
the
the other "thing" that no one has mentioned is that two different frames of
the same model may behave differently as regards shimmy. Slight differences
in frame alignment and or assembly and even rider pedaling style can cause
shimmy.
So you do everything mentioned above to correct it but you
Seems like getting the load down as low as possible will be the best
option. Low riders in the front for heavier loads, a small saddle bag and
front bag for lighter items. The IRD headset will help as well.
But even with all of the above you may still get some shimmy. Sometimes you
may have t
I want to reiterate that my bike bike rides rock-solid at any speed
hands free. I can corner on it, change lanes, whatever and am fine.
It's just adding S240 weight to it that it freaks out. Hopefully that
can be mitigated if not eliminated with some simple changes in set up
and/or packing techniqu
Wow! I find this post disturbing. If I bought an Atlantis expecting it to
carry a load and it couldn't, I'd be upset.
As a side note: I participated in this years "Party at Pardee". It's a
Northern California foothills annual metric century with about 4,500 feet
of climbing. In a sea of c
Hey Doug,
PM me with your thoughts.
~Hugh
On Sun, May 31, 2015, 7:41 PM dougP wrote:
> Hugh:
>
> In the interest of science, further testing required. David & I are
> contemplating doing some tests with his bike. If we can coordinate it, you
> might want to join us with your Atlantis. I did
Hugh:
In the interest of science, further testing required. David & I are
contemplating doing some tests with his bike. If we can coordinate it, you
might want to join us with your Atlantis. I did not know your Atlantis was
also an '03. I would guess ours are from the same batch or really c
Whew! I just read all the posts, took two attempts. I've been busy!
I have to agree with rack/load flex as at least one point of origin of
oscillation that is then transmitted through out the frame, but in the extreme.
Both my Hilsen and Atlantis have had shimmy. When riding the Hilsen basically
This is interesting, and illustrates the difficulty of dealing with
shimmy. I use the Tubus Duo low rider (no hoop, just 2 loose pieces) and
have loaded it with Ortleib large panniers (10-12 lbs each). Above that is
a Nitto small front rack supporting an Acorn boxy rando bag (the early,
small
I'm preferring to work with what I got, and if I just improve it I'll
be happy. But if nothing works, open to upgrades. Just seems that I
have a decent bike, a good rack, nice panniers, a Hoss seatbag, so
some combination of the above should work!!!
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:24 AM, 'hangtownmatt'
Sorry David. I just reread your post and see you only want suggestions
that work with what you already have. Good luck with that.
On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 8:51:57 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:
>
> Since nobody else has suggested it, I'll throw this out for consideration
> - How about a tra
Since nobody else has suggested it, I'll throw this out for consideration -
How about a trailer? Here's one I'd consider and might be perfect for your
adventures:
http://www.extrawheel.com/en/3/bicycle_trailer/
https://www.biketrailershop.com/extrawheel-trailers-c-140.html
On Thursday, May
>
> I was troubled by severe shimmy on my old Atlantis. I had a Nitto small
> front rack with a Tubus low rider. No matter how I changed the weight, it
> persisted. I bought a Nitto big front rack from Riv and the shimmy
> disappeared. For years I resisted the voices that said to load the fron
I'm going to fool around with some different dry-run set up ups and see how
it goes.
Rear bag only, rear bag w/ small front load, rear panniers only, and rear
pannies with just a little up front.
Also going to try the saddle a bit forward and see if that does anything.
Hands free isn't the ultim
Sure, definitely try some different loading strategies with panniers, but I
think other posters area too quick to dismiss a big saddlebag. It's the
only rear load that doesn't have leverage on the rear triangle (as long as
it's mostly hanging from the saddle, with any rack or support just
providing
Sounds like the option you should try is either front or rear panniers
with only a light front top load ( no basket) up high. Keeping the weight
as low as possible.
Every bike/load is different base on how you pack. Big loads up high are a
shimmy cause in most cases.
I remember riding dow
I'm okay w/ no hands (I guess), but hope that moving loads around can
reduce the necessity for tight two-handed grip!
On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 11:01:39 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> One handed becomes iffy for me above 30mph or on rougher roads, but
> otherwise is easy. Sound like two th
One handed becomes iffy for me above 30mph or on rougher roads, but
otherwise is easy. Sound like two things may need to shift: your load and
dropping no-hands from your expectations?
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 11:54:44 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yeah, I don
Yeah, I don't mean riding for for miles no-hands, but it's nice to sit up
and take hands off occasionally. But above and beyond that, I have to ride
seriously grabbing the bars with both hands when loaded. I really can't
even ride one-handed without shimmy starting. It's pretty severe, and not a
IMHO they are almost :-) mutually exclusive given the number of factors
that come into play when riding an unladen bike, no handed. When you add
weight, in unequal amounts, at different points, all over the bike,
stabilty with no hands would not be an expectation I would have of any bike.
I wo
For me loaded and hands free are mutually exclusive, but have dismissed
myself from having a strong voice in this because of my vertigo. Even if I
was comfortable riding no-hands with a load, the amount of correction
required when something goes off is huge compared with an unloaded bike
with i
I'm not upset if I can't ride no hands, laden or not; it's just a minor
annoyance. But no, the two are not exclusive. My '94 rode rock solid and
rock steady no-hands at 8 mph and at 18 mph with 30 lb in an unsupported
Camper Longflap; and the '94 was quicker handling than the later ones, with
42.4
Because I like riding with no hands. Shouldn't I be able to when loaded?
Are they mutually exclusive? Serious question.
My bike rides absolutely brilliantly when not loaded, but the four or so
times a year I ride loaded, it's pretty miserable. As I don't do it a lot,
I don't want to get a whole
Forgot the Ram: again, Fly, 40 lb, no shimmy.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> As an inveterate rear-loader, of several Rivendells ('94 Road, '03 Road,
> Sam Hill) and many other bikes, I haven't found that rear loads even up to
> 40 lb cause shimmy, while even modest fro
As an inveterate rear-loader, of several Rivendells ('94 Road, '03 Road,
Sam Hill) and many other bikes, I haven't found that rear loads even up to
40 lb cause shimmy, while even modest front loads -- over 5 but no more
than 10 lb -- make the front wheels harder to control.
Perhaps shimmy associat
It has been my experience with the Atlantis that any high rear load adds a
considerable amount of shimmy. The best loaded handling for me I have
found to be lower on the front. To me, the low front load also feels like
it adds a bit of stability to the bike, like its more solidly on the
groun
At the risk of being a smartass, I was wondering that too. :)
Maybe, David, your AR would work better except that those pesky M-bars
won't allow you to have the Wald basket. I have a funny feeling that a Sam
or a Hunq or an Atlantis would shimmy less when loaded this way. Jan and
others have c
Why are people trying to ride loaded bikes with no hands?
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Obviously my vertigo has a profound effect on my experience here, but I can
take my hands off very briefly with a minimal day ride load, but never with
a bikepacking load. The Hunqapillar rides very smooth with a bikepacking
load with rear panniers, tent/bag/pad on top and food bag on the front.
I get shimmy on my Atlantis with a full Nelson Long flap (cool band name)
with no front load. I must be doing something wrong
On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 12:07:38 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Last week on a S240, had a great time (except for that one incident)
> but the problem w
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