[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Andrew Huston
I am curious if anyone in the group has had success opting for a smaller size frame than would be suggested by the folks at Rivendell. I have had a difficult time finding comfort on my 56 Sam but the jump down seems rather large. Maybe my proportions are ill built for their methods but a bike t

[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread iamkeith
How tall are you, Andrew, and do you have a notion about your proportions? Long limbs / short torso, vice versa, long legs only, etc. And your PBH, of course. This would help give you better feedback. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Andrew Huston
Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but I've measured multiple times and this is what I get. -- You received this m

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread René Sterental
I'm 5'11", barely 1" taller, yet my saddle height is 77-78, depending on the shoes I wear. I guess my torso is shorter comparatively, yet I have long arms. My stock original Homer configuration from RBW had me on an 8cm stem on Noodles, which felt too far out no matter how much I raised the handleb

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes
Hey Andrew, James here from Gravel & Grind. Per our conversation, here's some pics of a Joe App 51 mocked up as we talked about. The guy I used is 5 10 with a 83.75 pbh. He described the position as 'groovy'. That's a Nitto 10cm dirt drop stem, the saddle set to your height and the stem

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread iamkeith
I don't have any rivs with the 6 degree top tube (other than the clem which is different because it only comes in three sizes which are thus meant to take a HUGE range of riders for each), but my gut says that 56 would indeed be too big for you. That size is directly comparable to the 61cm, 3

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread iamkeith
I don't have any Rivs with the 6 degree top tube (other than the clem which is different because it only comes in three sizes which are thus meant to take a HUGE range of riders for each), but my gut says that 56 would indeed be too big for you. That size is directly comparable to the 61cm, 3

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Jon in central Colorado
My pbh is 88. I have a 58 Sam with a 111 stem. Short legs long torso. Stradling the top tube of my Sam,I'm just touching the top tube.Very comfortable on my Sam. Would I be better off with a 55 Cheviot or a 60?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Lungimsam
I have a 52 Sam and a 53 Bleriot. Both fit great but the Sam pushes the limit. I had a 55 Bleriotwent to the 53. Small jump so both bikes fit. I think the main thing is knowing your reach and standover to know if a frame will fit. Fo me I use standover and TT length to size the bike, regardless o

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
In my opinion, 88 PBH would do better on a 60 Cheviot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread islaysteve
It seems like there have been a number of Rivs listed for sale here by owners who indicate that they a just a bit too large. Personally, I am small; 5'5 and I believe my PBH is about 79, I haven't measured in a while. According to the published chart, I should be on a 53 Bleriot. However, my

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread iamkeith
Funny - it might be my selective memory but I kind of recall that, in years past, it was the exact opposite: I seem to remember lots of people saying "Riv told me to get a bigger size than I'm used to, and now I wish I would have listened." I think the shift to the "expanded sizing" & more slo

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never would have predicted I could ride a 51 Appaloosa with drops, but the one I rode at RBW was perfect. So I bought it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/02/2016 09:57 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never would have predicted I could ride a 51 Appaloosa with drops, but the one I rode at RBW was perfect. So I bought it! I'm confused. Since when is a 51 cm bike "big"? Sounds to

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread René Sterental
The first Bombadil I had was too large for me. Ended with a 58 Hunqapillar of the gray version. It was a 60cm frame. René On Saturday, July 2, 2016, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 07/02/2016 09:57 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > >> I'm on the "go big" side. At 5'-7" with a 71cm saddle height, I never

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Andrew Huston
So much good input, seems like nothing can beat throwing a leg over one. Any Michigan Riv folks in this size range willing to offer test rides? I'm likely to make a trip to MD soon. James has been great offering his time to help me figure it out. This forum is really a great resource with vast

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Steve, "51" for an upslope Riv is kind of deceiving. Back in the day of level-ish toptubes, Grant would have put me on a 53/54/55 bike. The 51 Appaloosa has a virtual toptube of 56.5cm, which, in my opinion, is the better way to list its size. Sizing upslope frames by actual seattube length does

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-03 Thread Matt B.
It's probably better to go by reach, stack and STA nowadays if you know what you like. But on more traditional bikes with levelish top tubes like Riv used to do, or especially vintage bikes i.e. with no HT extension, it's PBH - 25cm for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere n

Re: [RBW] Smaller Riv sizing

2016-07-03 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:14:36 AM UTC-7, Matt B. wrote: > > PBH - 25cm for a fistful of seat post and if you want the bars anywhere > near saddle height. That's precisely consistent with my own experience. For anybody who wants another source of data, I have a lot of respect for the Compet