Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
In the interest of clarity, I'm going to start a separate thread for ideas/thoughts/features folks might be interested in for a QuickSimpleBeamOne. There have already been a few comments about desired features in the "Announcement" thread - "Rivendell 'SimpleBeam' - New Model - Call for the Se

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tinker I like EBBs significantly more than I like sliding vertical dropouts. It's good enough for generations of tandems, as well, so who am I to judge?. If I were to set up a disky single speed, I'd be perfectly fine with an EBB. On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:28:38 AM UTC-8, Philip Willi

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Patrick Moore
removal. Of course, there are always trade-offs – such fenders aren’t as >>>> functional as a good plastic or metal curved fender, but in non-downpours, >>>> and with a mudflap, they’re not bad. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:*

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB
bad. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: >>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Norris >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 10:41 AM >>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Matthew J
Discussed EBBs with Mike DeSalvo (of DeSalvo Bikes). He likes and uses them but warns the owner has to be vigilant about keeping them clean otherwise grime build up will shorten their useful lifespan. Not an issue for an MTB racer who constantly maintains (or if real good has a crew that const

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-26 Thread Philip Williamson
If eccentric bottom brackets are good enough for Jeff Jones and Sam at Singular, they'll probably work for me. And Niner. They might all use Phil EBBs; not sure. Making all your adjustments at the crank end of things seems to remove a bunch of variables (while introducing seat tube angle and BB

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Got it! On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > "and an ENO is very useful for that. But even the ENO has its liabilities" > > Both you and biketinker have attributed an opinion to me that I never > stated. I am NOT recommending vertical dropouts for a singlespeed bike. I > do

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
"and an ENO is very useful for that. But even the ENO has its liabilities" Both you and biketinker have attributed an opinion to me that I never stated. I am NOT recommending vertical dropouts for a singlespeed bike. I do think that vertical dropouts are the one and only sensible choice for *

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
One more: As to eccentric BBs, I've researched and there is quite a bit of scuttlebutt about creaking, loosening -- they apparently have their own set of problems. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I *get* it! Clever! I wish I could try that with the Surly hub on the '03,

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
I *get* it! Clever! I wish I could try that with the Surly hub on the '03, but the axle has caps with little shelves that fit into the dropouts -- you have to slide them along the dropout to remove the wheel. In fact, maybe not so clever: My Phil flip flop also have these "shelves" or what have yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > [...] > My main point is that for the everybody else who is not so lucky, the > universal solution for getting your wheel out from a perfect fender is to > allow your rear wheel to "drop out". That's one of the reasons why > vertical dropout

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Eric Daume
rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] >> *On Behalf Of *Eric Norris >> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 10:41 AM >> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne? >> >> >> >> My suggestion f

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tinker I like the horizontal dropout to allow for correcting chain tension on a single speed. Then, with the wheel in the right position, you dial in the fender. Now that's fixed "forever". You subsequently remove the wheel by removing the bolts from the hub and the wheel drops out. On Mo

RE: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1. That's the only thing I think I'd change about my QB From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Williamson Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:35 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Philip Williamson
How would you adjust chain tension? Eccentric BB? White Industries Eccentric ENO hub? I'd vote for the BB, to let people run any wheels they want or have. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:18:49 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I'm not in the market for a single speed,

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I humbly concede that point. It is possible by luck to end up with both good fender line and easy wheel removal with horizontals, and it is similarly possible with track ends. My main point is that for the everybody else who is not so lucky, the universal solution for getting your wheel out

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
A good fender line is not at all impossible with horizontals. My erstwhile Honjos looked perfect on the Curt and wheel removal was not a problem (32 mm tires). But I have to admit that this serendipity was just that -- by chance. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I'm not i

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm not in the market for a single speed, but if I had a single speed, it would likely have fenders. If it had fenders, it would likely have correct or close to correct fender line. As such it would be impossible to remove the rear wheel either rearward with track-like dropouts or forward with

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
ap, they’re not bad. >> >> >> >> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] >> *On Behalf Of *Eric Norris >> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 10:41 AM >> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re:

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
To tag along with my other question: Can a competent builder make his own long, horizontal dropouts, or does this require special forging equipment? Can these be as long as the longest track ends? I agree that forward facing horizontals are much easier on the road. I'd also have a builder move

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Philip Williamson
r 25, 2013 10:41 AM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne? > > > > My suggestion for a future reissue of the QB/SO: Horizontal drops, angled > like the track ends on the QB. Track ends are certainly traditional for > fixed

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread David Spranger
> > Before I bought my SimpleOne, I had very big doubts I would ever use it > enough to justify the expense. I live in a very hilly city and doubted my > own ability to do without gears. When it was discontinued and discounted on > the Riv site, I decided to take a chance and bought one of the

RE: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
ith a mudflap, they're not bad. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Norris Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne? My sugges

RE: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
For those on the fence about signing up for the SimpleBeam, two data points: 1. I hemmed and hawed about signing up for the Mystery Bike (I'm pretty sure I was the last one under the wire), and not only have I never regretted it, it turned out to be one of the smartest bike-related decisions I

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Eric Norris
Oops. I should have said unacceptable *fender* line. My mistake ... coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > > My suggestion for a future reissue of the QB/SO: Horizontal drops, an

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-25 Thread Eric Norris
My suggestion for a future reissue of the QB/SO: Horizontal drops, angled like the track ends on the QB. Track ends are certainly traditional for fixed gear bikes (and I suppose for single-speeds), but they make it more difficult to get the rear wheel in and out, especially with fenders. On my Q

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-24 Thread cyclotourist
Put up or shut-up time people... My QB is by far my favorite bike. Unfortunately also my least ridden, which made it hard to justify, but there's something special about it! I sold my first one, thinking I didn't really need it (see low miles above) and kicked myself near-weekly till I found one to

RE: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-24 Thread Larry Powers
I always thought the 2 speed design of the QB was a good idea. But for my riding I have never needed it. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:13:02 -0800 From: ashtab...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subj

RE: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-24 Thread Larry Powers
My QB is my favorite bike. When I am in shape and the bike is unloaded there is to hill I can't climb with one gear. Also for winter commuting there is much less maintenance. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 07:26:53 -0

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
Eric, I was just talking about taking a nice road bike and relegating it to the corner of the bike shop, as if this is the purpose of steel frames. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:52:25 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: > > Having done a lot of riding on fixed gears (on my Quickbeam, among other >

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Norris
Having done a lot of riding on fixed gears (on my Quickbeam, among other bikes) up to and including double centuries and PBP, I can say that a fixie or SS bike is not "emasculated." It's harder to do those events on a bike that doesn't shift and doesn't coast, and it's certainly not "emasculatin

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-23 Thread ted
>From the intermittent availability of the QB/SO model, and the discounted blowout of the last of the SimpleOnes not long after they arrived, it seems clear that they didn't sell well enough for RBW to maintain the model. I find it odd and depressing that this is the case but so it goes. As othe

Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

2013-11-23 Thread cyclotourist
I'm guessing it's a pretty saturated market as well. 1,001 little fixie/SS retailers out there, with the Crosscheck being the king of that niche. None with lugs or the AMAZING angled rear fork-ends, but still hard to distinguish in that crowded marketplace. On 11/23/13, BSWP wrote: > I am loving