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Steve is right that BBQ originated as way to make cheap cuts of meat palatable for farm hands and migrant workers. In Texas, it was German butchers smoking brisket for the migrant field hands. The classic Texas BBQ market is in fact a meat market selling prime cuts, whole fresh vegetables and

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You say "of course in Carolina it's mustard." I would say that Mustard sauce is popular in the Columbia, SC, area, but the dominant theme in the Carolinas is pulled pork with a vinegar-based sauce. My family is from the Pee Dee region of SC, and that's what we tend to. Edwin On Thursday, Novem

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my cousin used to be the head graphic artist for the Memphis newspaper and their publishing concern. He won in the Memphis competition a couple of times. But around here, pulled pork is carnitas en chile rojo, and I much prefer it that way. On Friday, November 21, 2014 7:23:30 AM UTC-6, asc

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Really come to love the BBQ I was lucky to enjoy when I lived and went to school in Arkansas, sort of crossroads between a lot of the mentioned styles so far. Memphis was always a destination in the spring for the Memphis in May BBQ competition. The local place I always visit is Charlie Vergo'

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Luling City Market and Smittys Market in Lockhart seem to polarize people about which is The best - they're both great, but I'm a Smitty's fan, partly because I used to eat there when they didn't offer plastic silverware - there was a pullpit with a butcher knife on a chain and if you didn't br

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Okay, I found Steve's comment extremely funny. Mainly as my wife has worked for USDA for 25+ years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: > > > But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-

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That is a nice smoker Ron. I have the big boy webber with smoker box attached inside, not as much capacity as you but ribs out of mine after 7 hours are amazing. We are lucky to have a few smokehouses in the summer locally, one in riding distance I went to all to often this summer, haha. On Nov 20,

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Llano is okay, Cooper's is there, the brisket is pretty good. But for real Central Texas BBQ my heart rests in Lockhart, in Smitty's Market. There's a family feud there, but I love walking back to the pit at Smitty's. Top notch. I left Texas in 1999 but maan if you're driving the Austin-Bergs

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I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling. What bbq places are good there? I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s. My first wife had family in Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we h

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I like to go to Gates in KC and get a "pound an" in other words a sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and baked beans. KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and mesquite. Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork. Lockhart is all

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mm On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the > planet, so I don't have to go very far. > Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap > >

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Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the planet, so I don't have to go very far. Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

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On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist. Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below "Standard", i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? http://www.m

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No no no. Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper "BBQ". Meaning, it's slow smoked. I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC. I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et

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Last time I was in Kansas, they tried to feed me Mexican food. I go south to eat Mexican food. On Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:57:27 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: > > Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst > at least? > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc

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Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst at least? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ. > This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart. > > >

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We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ. This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart. Sauce? We dun need no sauce But

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Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn Yankees in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and grits, steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the best hands down. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: > The Mason-Dixon

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The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line. No Waffle Houses north of the M-D line. I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to IHOP. Mmmm, pecan waffles... I'm not the first to make this observation. http://www.theonion.com/articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,96

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It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a northern county. After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S or E-W. On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote: > > Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Di

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Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon line. As in "there's no good sweet tea or grits" above the mason-dixon line. Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore "southern." In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were be

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Whatever it takes to keep your fAtlantis out there where it belongs. That bike is BUTCH On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:39:19 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion. > I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in

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Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion. I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in pants and flannel shirts than sweat it out in the summer heat. Enjoy! On my side of things, I just picked up a -30C sleeping bag yesterday... stay tuned for some VERY

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Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP wrote: > Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it. > > David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend. W