Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Mike Mangus
Take out the word "millimeter" from that last sentence and the answer would be "yes." :) Mike From: Ben Holko To: "rctankcombat@googlegroups.com" Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:51:02 AM Subject: RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete New

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Mike Mangus
_ From: Steve Tyng To: R/C Tank Combat Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 4:00:59 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... I find this CAD versus pencil discussion quite interesting. On one side we have the CAD advocates you prefer to fully realize their creations in the virtual world before put

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Steve Tyng
I find this CAD versus pencil discussion quite interesting. On one side we have the CAD advocates you prefer to fully realize their creations in the virtual world before putting blade to wood. This type of designer/builder attempts to foresee and design for every conceivable possibly that their d

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread whitney james
using, but you get the idea): http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=4404&p_catid=73 > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:11:03 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > most companies offer

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread whitney james
re... From: dwconn...@comcast.net To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:09:44 -0500 Here’s a great spring calculator http://icrank.com/cgi-bin/pageman/pageout.cgi?path=/data/spring/spring.htm&t=2 If you ent

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
o, it'll be very much a trial and error thing... > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:08 -0800 > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > > From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com > > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com >

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Doug Conn
e next in line. You should be able to weigh those yourself or get approximations from the group. -Doug From: whitney james [mailto:me1y...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:47 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... I p

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread whitney james
nks! > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:08 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > Well. I support cad. More accurate as you can put the motors in aswell > and my laptop which i run SU from can

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
Well. I support cad. More accurate as you can put the motors in aswell and my laptop which i run SU from can be taken about anywhere. Pencil and paper: well i cant draw well but ive seen technical DRAWINGS and they will get you where you want i guess.Back to

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread whitney james
All right, Wow! CAD Vs Pencil drawn: I think I’ve found the new blood sport! If I may hijack this MOST interesting conversation? (apologetic smiley face thingy…) Ahem… YEEE! (Ok, regain composure…) I’ve gotten my first set of parts in the mail! They came Sat, just 3 days after the e

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Frank Pittelli
Ben Holko wrote: > Anyone who thinks they can draw finalized MILLIMETER accurate tank plans > on paper faster than can be done in CAD is kidding themselves. Of course, anyone who thinks they need finalized MILLIMETER accurate tank plans to build a 1:6 scale model is kidding everyone else. In fa

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Clark Ward Jr
Note: I put craftsman in quotes because I feel that I myself fall short of what I would call a true craftsman. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was slandering them :) Just meself! -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send emai

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Clark Ward Jr
Ben, I agree with you in every respect, but I will be the last 'craftsman' among us to claim that I cut or drill millimeter accurate ;) And I have done acceptable work with my pencil prior to discovering CAD :) But I love Alibre Express and won't give it up :) -- Clark in Georgia -- You are c

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-30 Thread Ben Holko
AD is kidding themselves. From: Mike Mangus [mailto:mikem5...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:53 AM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... Once a week. It gets a reboot from total power off. Just one way to try to keep windows from clogging u

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-29 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
way to try to > keep windows from clogging up and clean up any lingering updates that > requires additional restarts. > > > From: Clark Ward Jr > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 11:43:18 AM > Subject: Re:

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Mangus
, 2009 11:43:18 AM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... You TURN OFF your computer?! -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcomba

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Clark Ward Jr
I mix the two methods... draw in Alibre so I can fiddle with sizing and let the PC do all the numbercrunching, and then print pics with measurements on them to take out to the shop. My shop computer is not man enough to run Alibre and my dark tower of power (2x Radeon 4870 1GB cards in crossfire

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread OdysseySlipways
why not just draw in, show it's profiles, and any finer detail info. give it an overall length, and let the builder figure out the size of things pending on their build scale? unless you want to go through 2 or 3 sets of drawings where one would be in 1:6th scale and another in 1:7th scale bu

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
mini itx, fanless psu and a massive amount of heaft sinks. And put it under the extractor fan On Nov 28, 4:57 pm, Frank Pittelli wrote: > callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com wrote: > > Ah. But what if you where to keep the cad drawing open in which case > > you have every individual line availab

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Frank Pittelli
callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com wrote: > Ah. But what if you where to keep the cad drawing open in which case > you have every individual line available instantly as and when needed. > constantly booting up and shutting down a computer isn't a practical > way to do things. Almost a good poin

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
Mines been turned off once in the past 2 weeks. And that was this morning to install updates. Normally I hibernate my laptop which has advantage of keeping all my documents open. Or just leave it on. Gets hot and does it no good though On Nov 28, 4:43 pm, Clark Ward Jr wrote: > You TURN OFF your

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Clark Ward Jr
You TURN OFF your computer?! -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/gro

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Bill Hamilton
On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Frank Pittelli wrote: > whitney james wrote: >> Still, it's VERY convenient to have the measurements instantly >> available... > > Hmmm ... let's consider that statement in more detail. > > Time to read a measurement using a ruler: > 1) Place ruler on drawing - 2 se

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
Ah. But what if you where to keep the cad drawing open in which case you have every individual line available instantly as and when needed. constantly booting up and shutting down a computer isn't a practical way to do things. A computer uses more power booting up than leaving it idle for approx 1h

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-28 Thread Frank Pittelli
whitney james wrote: > Still, it's VERY convenient to have the measurements instantly > available... Hmmm ... let's consider that statement in more detail. Time to read a measurement using a ruler: 1) Place ruler on drawing - 2 sec 2) Read measurement from ruler - 2 sec Total Time: 4 sec Time to

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-27 Thread Gregory Pwneror
Nov 2009 14:12:12 -0800 > > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > > From: f...@thomson-online.org > > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > > > Hi James... > > > > > > > Thanks Fred! > > > (Isn't the Bulldog T064?) > > &

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-27 Thread whitney james
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:12:12 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: f...@thomson-online.org > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > Hi James... > > > > Thanks Fred! > > (Isn't the Bulldog T064?) > > Yeah. I was thinking a

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-27 Thread whitney james
ubject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... From: sockles...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com For the steering linkages, you might be able to get away with making them using Alu bar and bolts instead of having any ball bearings. I might draw up some plans tonight. Yes I mean draw, with a pe

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Gregory Pwneror
For the steering linkages, you might be able to get away with making them using Alu bar and bolts instead of having any ball bearings. I might draw up some plans tonight. Yes I mean draw, with a pencil and a drawing board, some of us have the dark knowledge of instrumental drawing, it's more fun th

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Fred Thomson
Hi James... > Thanks Fred! > (Isn't the Bulldog T064?) Yeah. I was thinking about Ben's beast as I quoted it in another post and the number just stuck. The procedure Frank described above (build it, test it, break it) is really going to become your friend. Trust me. The initial hull of the Bu

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
, and you're ready to roll. I was looking at the brushless motors (some very impressive numbers!) but the price tag is equally impressive. > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:21:14 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
nd as always: if I'm totally out to lunch, feel free to throw objects. (just nothing that would hurt too bad. :) James > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:06:13 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: steve...@gmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > My th

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com
one has disproven them, PLEASE speak up > and slap me until I realize my idiocy. > > Thanks again for the input everyone! > > James > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:38:04 -0500 > > From: frank.pitte...@gmail.com > > To: rctankcombat@googlegro

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Steve Tyng
My this has turned into a lively discussion. James, I look forward to seeing your build picks. Regarding the components you are choosing to build from. Remember these are from vehicles generally meant for racing and as such are engineered to be light and "just" strong enough to stay together for

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
PLEASE speak up and slap me until I realize my idiocy. Thanks again for the input everyone! James > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:38:04 -0500 > From: frank.pitte...@gmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > > whitney james w

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
eeded. > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:28:26 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: ki4...@gmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > On grass, dirt, etc... a differential is not needed; the wheels will > slide a bit in the rough. Many 1:1 scale mil

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
mes > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:19:10 -0500 > From: frank.pitte...@gmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > > Fred Thomson wrote: > > First advice I got in this came from Frank P. and was valuable (even > >

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
threaded shaft/geared nut setup. However, at my current rate of progress, it'll be a while before I need to worry about it. > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:54:18 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: i...@spitbraaicatering.co.za > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Frank Pittelli
whitney james wrote: > If this will be one thing, it's over engineered. I've been ~3 years in > the planning stage... Over-engineering typically means "building stronger than necessary". Since you haven't *built* anything yet, you have "design paralysis", a disease commonly associated with peop

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Clark Ward Jr
On grass, dirt, etc... a differential is not needed; the wheels will slide a bit in the rough. Many 1:1 scale military vehicles and Jeeps as recent as the 80's (90's?) have proven this to be so :) -- Clark in Georgia -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a me

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Frank Pittelli
Fred Thomson wrote: > First advice I got in this came from Frank P. and was valuable (even > if I had to repeatedly learn it the hard way): > > **Over-engineering is not a bad thing.** > And don't forget the corollary: *** Over-designing is the WORST thing *** Evolutionary designs ar

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
he welcome! James > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:48:26 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: f...@thomson-online.org > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > Hi James and welcome... > > First advice I got in this came from Frank P. and was valuable (even

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread whitney james
Henry: A very much appreciated piece of writing! Right, point by point: > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:57:23 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: henryverheg...@earthlink.net > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > A few thoughts: > > 1. It would be

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread IcarusZulu
gt; Thanks! > > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:02:20 +1300 > Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: sockles...@gmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > One of the main problems you would probably find with ACs is the steering > linkage, as they are the mos

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread Fred Thomson
Hi James and welcome... First advice I got in this came from Frank P. and was valuable (even if I had to repeatedly learn it the hard way): **Over-engineering is not a bad thing.** This advice has proven very valuable. I have broken many parts on my Bulldog (T067) just driving it around. Someti

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-25 Thread HV
A few thoughts: 1. It would be interesting to see an 8-wheel model. I agree they are cool, regardless of suitability for paintball. I am surprised that no one among the manufacturers of large scale RC tanks is offering a model of the Stryker, given the number of people who have served in that vehi

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread whitney james
ot a lot of time. Thanks! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:02:20 +1300 Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... From: sockles...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com One of the main problems you would probably find with ACs is the steering linkage, as they are the most fragile bit. If possabl

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread whitney james
s for the input! From: nap...@icon.co.za To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:20 +0200 Now you know how to scale it look at lawn mower repair companies. You ought to find the right scale wheel at an afordable price I start

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread Gregory Pwneror
erting it to inches will give you > (on the full size thing anyway): > -20 inch rim > -46.4 inches overall diameter > -15.6 inch width. > > Hopes that helps! > Either way, glad to hear I'm not the only Loony-Toon here! > Maybe we'll have to swap ideas. > >

Re: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread Spitbraaicatering
to inches will give > you (on the full size thing anyway): > -20 inch rim > -46.4 inches overall diameter > -15.6 inch width. > > Hopes that helps! > Either way, glad to hear I'm not the only Loony-Toon here! > Maybe we'll have to swap ideas. > > > > Date:

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread Cold comfort
ny-Toon here! > Maybe we'll have to swap ideas. > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:38:19 -0800 > > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > > From: gfcr...@hotmail.com > > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > > Hi James, I have been wanti

RE: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread whitney james
ly Loony-Toon here! Maybe we'll have to swap ideas. > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:38:19 -0800 > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie... > From: gfcr...@hotmail.com > To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > > Hi James, I have been wanting to build a stryker for a while, so don't

[TANKS] Re: Complete Newbie...

2009-11-24 Thread Cold comfort
Hi James, I have been wanting to build a stryker for a while, so don't think your all alone in wanting to build a wheeled vehicle. So tell me guys, does anyone know what the scale size of a stryker tire would be? I can only find the profile size etc which means nothing to me as it is a ratio of th