[RDA-L] Library of Congress preparing for RDA

2011-09-09 Thread Kuhagen, Judith
The Policy and Standards Division, part of the Acquisitions and Bibliographic Access Directorate at the Library of Congress (Washington, D.C.), is launching a new website as the Library prepares for RDA. The site is located at: http://www.loc.gov/aba/rda/. There are links to training documents

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Julie Moore
I would ask that you please keep in mind my original list of real life examples of these materials that I catalog day in and day out. How do these things fit into the list of current unmediated carrier types? card flipchart object roll sheet volume The fact is that they do not fit well into any o

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Thomas Brenndorfer said: >Terms like "kit" or "multimedia" as blanket terms seem like the term >"polyglot" which was removed in RDA ... Granted "kits" is a collective term, but a kit is more than the sum of its parts, and describing the parts individually does not meet patron needs, nor reflect

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Carrier types have to go through the sieve of the RDA-ONIX framework, which established the underlying attributes for these elements. http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2007/5chair10.pdf Carrier type is built out of three attributes: Storage Medium Format, Housing Format, Intermediation Tool (the la

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod > Sent: September 9, 2011 3:44 PM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Kits > > It seems to me a kit is a

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mark asked: >Here's the first question that comes to my sleep-deprived mind: is a >kit a kind of *carrier*? Why not? The resources usually come in a container after all. But then I was born and raised in a culture in which one "carried" a date to a dance. It seems to me a kit is a physical for

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Julie proposed: >*"(3)* *:* a set of parts to be assembled or worked up ... Which seems to describe what you have been calling [realia]. Seems you would be better advised to follow the Webster as opposed to the too limited AACR2 definition. >To make it more cataloger-friendly, I'd suggest verbi

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Julie Moore
Thanks, Lori, I'd be happy to send this in to Kelley as a revision proposal. I look forward to your sending me the interim guidelines. In the meantime, I was hoping to generate some conversation about this on this listserv. Do folks think this (adding "kit" to the list of unmediated carrier types

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Lori Robare
Julie, If you want to pursue this as a revision to RDA, you can submit a revision proposal through CC:DA. Proposals may be forwarded to CC:DA through any voting member or through any of the groups represented on CC:DA. OLAC is one of the groups represented and would be a good fit for this t

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Julie Moore
I would say yes, just as much as an "object" is a kind of carrier. (Object is on the list of unmediated carriers.) RDA 3.3.1.3 Julie On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Mark Ehlert wrote: > Julie Moore wrote: > > Were RDA to adopt the term "kit" to its list of unmediated carrier types > in > > 3.3

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Ehlert
Julie Moore wrote: > Were RDA to adopt the term "kit" to its list of unmediated carrier types in > 3.3.1.3... Here's the first question that comes to my sleep-deprived mind: is a kit a kind of *carrier*? -- Mark K. Ehlert                 Minitex Coordinator                    University of Minn

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Julie Moore
Were RDA to adopt the term "kit" to its list of unmediated carrier types in 3.3.1.3, and were they to define it with not only the AACR2 verbiage but to also add "a box of stuff" in more eloquent terms. I looked up "kit" in Mirriam-Webster online, and found: *"(3)* *:* a set of parts to be assembled

Re: [RDA-L] Kits

2011-09-09 Thread Julie Moore
OK, so you're just saying that you are going to add "kit" and "large print" to your list of unmediated carriers. That makes more sense, I guess. Unless adopted into RDA, it is a local practice, however. So my black bear and pig lungs are still an "object" ... I'm fine with that. Julie On Thu, S