Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Robert Maxwell asked: How do you code the MARC fixed date fields if you have a not before .or a not after date of publication? Fixed 008/07-10 date one has no question mark. but there is type of date q questionable. I would code type of date q the year in 264 1 $c, or that decade with the

Re: [RDA-L] 264 1 date

2013-06-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Julie Moore asked: Are we still allowed to take a stab at the date if it's unknown ... for example, if there is absolutely no date on the item anywhere, but you're pretty sure it was published in this decade, is it OK to put $c [201?] We are continuing AACR2's forbidding [s.d.], and continuing

Re: [RDA-L] 264 copyright date

2013-06-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Julie Moore asked: Is this because the only date they have is a copyright date ... so they put the publisher info in the 264 _1 $a and $b and sometimes $c [copyright date Yes. But if the inferred publication date and the copyright date are the same year, I urge you to change the record to date

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Jack Wu
What I'm wondering, not just about the 264 field, but adding of information that is not required. For instance: When one finds an RDA record that has one mentioned author and others unmentioned, can one complete the enumeration? When relationship designators are missing, can one add them? When

Re: [RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Joan Wang
A tiny question is about the capitalization. Is it upper-case like [Place of publication not identified] and [Publisher not identified], or lower-case? Thanks for your help. Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Paradis Daniel daniel.para...@banq.qc.cawrote: According to LC's training

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Myers, John F.
Julie Moore wrote: Yes, it was the [197-?] scenario that I was thinking of, where there is nothing that tells you any kind of a date ... but you have the feeling that it was probably made in the 70s ... possibly just based on your own experience. I've been searching all over the place in RDA

[RDA-L] Are options enhancements

2013-06-14 Thread Jack Wu
Hi, When one finds an RDA record that has one mentioned author and others unmentioned, can one complete the enumeration? When relationship designators are missing, can one add them? When publication date is present but not copyright date, can one add it? When 33x fields have $a but not $b, can

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Julie Moore
Thanks, John ... this helps. As a follow up question ... in the instance where I am pretty sure that the item was published in 2013, but there is no hint of a date anywhere ... is it OK for the cataloger to record: 246 _1 $a xxx : $b yyy : $c [2013?] Thanks kindly for your patience, Julie On

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Julie, Not sure why you are having trouble finding the RDA instructions. See 1.9 Dates. ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu

Re: [RDA-L] 264 dates

2013-06-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
John F, Myers posted: EXAMPLE [between 1846 and 1853?] [between 1800 and 1899?] [between 1970 and 1979?] [between 1400 and 1600?] These Anglo centrc phrases will not fly for non English languge materials in non English language catalogues. The AACR2 [194-?], [18--],

Re: [RDA-L] Are options enhancements

2013-06-14 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I assume Jack's questions relate to working on OCLC, which we don't do. I assume the answers would depend on the library's enghance status. If status allows, I would say yes in most cases. For local editing, my opinion: When one finds an RDA record that has one mentioned author and others

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Myers, John F.
Julie Moore asks: in the instance where I am pretty sure that the item was published in 2013, but there is no hint of a date anywhere ... is it OK for the cataloger to record: 246 _1 $a xxx : $b yyy : $c [2013?] -- 1.9.2.3 Probable