[RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-12 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, In my earlier post I deliberately began with please assume for the sake of argument.  That is because I realised that some readers would find it hard to accept the RDA formulation, encoded with ISBD punctuation, on account of its wordiness plus the likelihood that some headway

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Joan Wang
In Appendix D, ISBD punctuation. When adjacent elements within one area are to be enclosed in square brackets, enclose each in its own set of square brackets. EXAMPLE [London] : [Phipps], [1870] Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ian Fairclough

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread S Murray
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:55 AM Subject: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements Dear RDA-L readers, In the following, please assume for the sake of argument that no information is available whatsoever. It is my understanding

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Ian Fairdlough posted: in RDA, the instructions provide for:=0A[Place of publication not identified] : [publisher not identified], [date of publication not identified] We would never create such a record, and would change any derived record with this 264. Googling and clicking on contact us

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin M Randall
Mac Elrod wrote: Ian Fairdlough posted: in RDA, the instructions provide for:=0A[Place of publication not identified] : [publisher not identified], [date of publication not identified] We would never create such a record, and would change any derived record with this 264. Googling

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kevin Randall said: But usually can still mean a significant number of exceptions. Yes, but as you indicate further on, at least country can usually be guessed. For example, there are enough differences in American, British, Canadian, and Australian language usage to provide clues. A

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Kyrios, Alex
Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:36 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements Kevin Randall said: But usually can still mean a significant number

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Alex Kyrios asked: How many patrons know what [s.n.] means, though? A Google search can tell them if they do not. Definitions seen by hovering would be a good OPAC feature, certainly better than dumbing down records with too long phrases. Back to the original question: publisher should be