Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread jay
HI Allan and all, I”m with Dave when it comes to designing and cobbling together a fix for an incredibly expensive piece of equipment. Sure I can get it to work, but who’s fault is it when it doesn’t? And it does bring up the interesting point about where are the temp sensors located? Would

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Mick Abraham
Hello, Jay & All~ Anytime the battery mfr. has a solution that is pre-baked into their product--that's +1 for avoiding later warranty disputes, etc. I'm glad to learn that LifeBlue is doing a "divert the charge DC method" for cold lithiums, which seems quite logical to me.

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Hugh Piggott
I am trying out an insulated box and small heater. It doesn't get very cold in West Coast scotland so 120W seems useful. Also automatic vents used on greenhouses, to open up the sealed box. On Fri 17 May 2019, 18:09 Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar, wrote: > The risk may be worth it if the battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
The risk may be worth it if the battery is inexpensive. I have a client who has a neighbor who had to leave his home in Canada for a funeral. Things snowballed and the road washed out. He could not get home for a week and lost his well over 10K LFP battery. The battery logged the temp and

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Sindelar Solar
Jay, I faced this issue recently with a Blue Ion system. Blue Planet tech support sent me a clear description of the solution worked out by a Utah installer, Gardner Energy in West Haven, that was brilliant. It used an 18W and a 24W reptile terrarium heater placed between layers of batteries

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread frenergy
Jay,             I would think this might be pretty riskyI think of the difficulty in being sure all the cells were uniformly warmed.  I guess if they were in an enclosure and the ambient in there was held at some determined temp for ? (many) hours then one could assume? all the cells

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Jay, Within the next couple of weeks LiFeBlue Battery will be shipping the new Low temperature models. They have a heater built in and if the cells are below 32°F, charge current is diverted to heat the cells above freezing before transferring full charge current. All handled by the

Re: [RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread Lorenzo Ortiz
Try heated seed mats. They seem to work pretty well if you have an available power source nearby. https://www.amazon.com/MT10004-Waterproof-Certified-Hydroponic-Germination/dp/B0044U4F5I On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:26 AM jay wrote: > HI All, > > I”m wondering if anyone has suggestions about how

[RE-wrenches] heating lithium in cold weather

2019-05-17 Thread jay
HI All, I”m wondering if anyone has suggestions about how to charge a Lithium battery in RV or in this case Polarius in sub zero temps. Are there batteries that have heaters built in, or is it still a custom design issue to build a heating system? ( insulation and heaters) Thanks, jay

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan

2019-05-17 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches There are a variety of attic fans that are PV direct and work well modified for green house gables On Fri, May 17, 2019, 6:38 AM David Katz wrote: > Snap Fan makes great ones. Snap-fan.com > David Katz > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:40 AM David Palumbo > wrote: > >> I have an old off

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan

2019-05-17 Thread David Katz
Snap Fan makes great ones. Snap-fan.com David Katz On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:40 AM David Palumbo wrote: > I have an old off grid customer looking for a greenhouse fan, about 20”, > to run direct off an old 48w 12v module. > > > > Backwoods is listing DC Super Fans that say battery based and not

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan

2019-05-17 Thread David Palumbo
Snap Fan looks great. Thanks Adam Katzman! From: AE Solar Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 8:44 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan Maybe try Snap Fan  Adam Katzman Autonomous Energies PO Box 1245 Kingston, NY 12402 www.autonomousenergies.com (518) 567-1468

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan

2019-05-17 Thread AE Solar
Maybe try Snap Fan Adam Katzman Autonomous Energies PO Box 1245 Kingston, NY 12402 www.autonomousenergies.com (518) 567-1468 On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:40 AM David Palumbo wrote: > I have an old off grid customer looking for a greenhouse fan, about

[RE-wrenches] 12v solar direct greenhouse fan

2019-05-17 Thread David Palumbo
I have an old off grid customer looking for a greenhouse fan, about 20”, to run direct off an old 48w 12v module. Backwoods is listing DC Super Fans that say battery based and not intended to operate direct from solar module. Where can we get a fan to fit the bill for PV direct operation?