Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread bruce
Check out Quickcharge out of Oklahoma. I have one of their 100 amp chargers working in tandem with some VFXs. Good folks.Bruce Fiero-RMI"Energizing the Rogue Valley"4115 S Pacific HwyMedford, OR 97501  P: 541.535.3965F: 541.512.0061E: br...@willpowerelect.comW: Willpower Electric, LLC CCB

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I'm not too concerned with multi-stage charging. I need to check with the battery manufacturer, but I'm pretty sure they are not, either. The BMS is set up to start the AGS at 20% SOC and charge to 80% SOC at which time the BMS turns off the generator. So we are just talking about bulk charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Thanks, Steve. Parallel operation might be tricky, but I'm sure they have dealt with this before. I'll check it out. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Steve Higgins wrote: > Try these guys... Heard Good things. Not sure how they would work with 4 > in parallel on the same battery bank. >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
The issue is during switching only. During inverter operation everything is silky smooth. During generator operation things are mostly smooth, but large loads that come on or off during heavy charging can cause some surging, but that is more a function of a junky generator (which was just replaced

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Ray
Are you sure its just the transfer switching causing problems? I've seen quite a bit of lights dimming, flickering, and strangeness with XW inverters ( and many others) just in normal operation.  Certain LEDs are particularly sensitive, just another appliance coming on can cause noticeable

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Steve Higgins
Try these guys... Heard Good things. Not sure how they would work with 4 in parallel on the same battery bank. https://quickcharge.com/selct-a-charge-stationary-chargers.html

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread RE Ellison
And also most battery chargers are not multi stage they’re big taper type chargers They don’t charge nearly as efficiently or as well as a three stage inverter charger Bob Ellison > On Apr 21, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Jason Szumlanski > wrote: > > I'm not sure I follow. I would disconnect the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread RE Ellison
Maybe somebody’s already got this thought in here I didn’t look that in-depth Used to be a good suggestion was to get a couple magnums or heart interface inverters and use them strictly as a charger not an inverter So the inverters you have can keep inverting the generator would feed the other

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches, Jason I have done this when l dont want tranfer switch operation but you are looking for 400 amps at 51vdc that around 20 kW of charger. l used golf cart chargers but you may want to consider a forklift charger, they are quick and basic, the BMS/U will manage the charge rates anyway. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I'm not sure I follow. I would disconnect the generator AC2 input from the existing quad XW system and move it to the external chargers. Or, I could just turn the charging off by software config in the XWs. If I were to buy four inverter/chargers to serve as "external" chargers for the battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I have not looked into that, but the problem also exists transferring from inverter to generator. The owner wants "clean" power all the time, and just keeping him on inverter power all the time would be a solution. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:35 AM Tump wrote: > Have you shortened the transfer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
4 xw's need the external relay contactors not the internals, Right? You will destroy the internals relays. If there was warranty still left, and there is not on 6048, you would need to scrap them for parts. Xw logs welded relay warnings and faults for warranty on all xw's. Dave Angelini

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rectifier

2020-04-21 Thread Ray
I also don't understand requiring 100 amps for an auxillary dwelling. 230.79 requires a minimum service of 100 amps for a single family dwelling, but that is a service requirement, not a requirement for a feeder to another building.  Even 230.79(D) says all other buildings only require a 60

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rectifier

2020-04-21 Thread drake . chamberlin
The voltage drop recommendations in the code are actually not requirements, but recommendations. Some locations make them requirements, but if the AHJ is following the NEC without amendment, the 2% and 3% recommended drops are only recommendations. --- On 2020-04-20 10:56, Mac Lewis wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Tump
Have you shortened the transfer time from gen to inv, voltage “cut out"acceptance of the gen in power instead of their 90Vac to say 110V/L ? Raising the output voltage on the 6848s & gen set for VD/voltage sag issues under heavy loading? Watch this as sometimes under heavy loading it will cut

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand alone battery charger

2020-04-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I actually need 400Adc at 51V nominal of total charge rate. I was hoping to use 100Adc chargers for redundancy, or some combination of 2-8 chargers to reach the needed current, assuming they can be synced up. I don't think the charging algorithm needs to be complicated. We are basically bulk