Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Dave, If the AHJ is happy with the remote power down of the inverter (and now the PV array if on the roof or if it enters a building other than a power shed) I'd say that's great. You can't make the inverter much safer than shutting it down. A remote battery disconnect may only de-energize an

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
I agree, Ray. Shutting down the inverter's ac output and the PV array is sufficient to make a battery based system about as safe as possible for firefighters. That is probably what was wanted when the code was revised to require an outside battery disconnect. Unfortunately, the local AHJ may no

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread SES
I don’t think it is a good idea to install systems on shake for almost too many reasons to list. I suggest re-roofing that section of roof with almost anything else. If only reroofing that section the solar is going on in order to prepare the roof for the solar it may qualify for the ITC. But

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Ray
Interesting idea: shutting down the inverter should actually be preferable to a battery disco, since its possible to disconnect the battery and still have an inverter operate array direct if the loads are close to the array output.  I've seen it take several minutes for the inverter to shut off

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches We will not go over a shake roof, we will only strip it and comp the area of the array and shake over the comp AKA picture frame it in. Leaving the shake in place is asking for trouble down the road. Jerry On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 4:25 AM Howie Michaelson wrote: > Hi all, > Does anyone hav

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Benn Kilburn
QuickMount flashings for shake 👍 Be careful when sliding the flashing in and make sure you get it under the underlay paper. If you’re not careful you will hit the paper and bunch it up and it it a bugger to flatten out the paper if that happens. The uneven surface is something you need to deal w

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC for Batteries < 60v ??

2020-10-20 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Thanks Kent, A question, most of the Sierra AHJ's only care, and that is rare, that there is a remote power off like Outback and Schneider have already. I understand it is not a battery disco, and even though there is one in these systems, what is your response please? I mostly dislike power

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread August Goers
Hi Howie, We bump into wood shake roofs from time to time in the Bay Area. I second what others have said. In particular, make sure the roof is not too old. We have a cutoff of 10 years old or less in order to consider self-waterproofing the install. Otherwise, we insist on roofer engagement. The

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Jay
Hi Howie Like clay tile there are a few things to consider Damage to the shakes not under the modules during installation, walking all around etc. if they are old and brittle it’s going to be a huge problem as they will break quite easily. And like a clay tile roof, you might consider remo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Ken Schaal
My experience here in Virginia goes back to the last century- -- ouch! Thermal panels mounted with space under. Squirrels chewed a big hole all the way thru the roof into the attic ! So many other issues affecting life span in addition to walking on them. Quality of shingle, are they installed to b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Christopher Warfel
This can be a tricky installation as the shingle has a bevel that asphalt does not.  Quickmount just uses a larger flashing piece to my memory, which is not very helpful.  Chris Warfel On 10/20/2020 7:24 AM, Howie Michaelson wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have any experience mounting on a roof wit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Howie, I’ve had luck with the Quick Mount attachment made specifically for cedar shake. More tinker involved than a regular asphalt roof, but a good option to make the job work. https://www.quickmountpv.com/products/shake-mount.html Hope this helps. -Chris On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:25 AM How

[RE-wrenches] Cedar Shake roofs

2020-10-20 Thread Howie Michaelson
Hi all, Does anyone have any experience mounting on a roof with cedar shakes. I'm most interested in figuring out how you can avoid breaking half the roof apart and still get trail and panels mounted and wired. Thanks for any ideas, Howie Howie Michaelson Sun Catcher NABCEP Certified Solar PV Insta