[RE-wrenches] Ble Planet 8kWh solved, and Namaka

2022-01-31 Thread William Miller
Friends: Thanks for all of the input about the Blue Planet 8kWh configuration. Here is the story: The red lead is supposed to be longer. It is supposed to have enough slack looped behind the panel so you can pull enough out to connect to the second from bottom shelf. There was a redesign and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread William Miller
Kirpal: Thanks for that suggestion. The AP Smart system modules are certainly more compact and this is a plus for me. Do you have to have a sensor transformer and logic unit on each string? Could more than one string be routed through one sensor coil? This installation will have 10 strings

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread William Miller
Jerry: Yes it is required. Rapid Shutdown: NEC 690.12. All buildings except dedicated solar buildings. Read it and weep. William Miller Solar 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985 *From:* Jerry Shafer [mailto:jerrysgarag...@gmail.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread Jerry Shafer
William Are you sure RSD is required on a non habitable building, historically its not required. Now that being said we use fire raptor with the best results, yes it takes an extra conduite and might require a button and power supply depending on inverter application. Jerry On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 9

Re: [RE-wrenches] burnt wire

2022-01-31 Thread Mac Lewis
Yes, this is a loose connection coupled with no way to detect and respond to the Arc fault. It doesn't have to be loose on that conductor on a common bus, any bad connection can build up heat and melt conductors. Scary! On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 6:51 PM Dave Tedeyan wrote: > Hi All, > > I was tr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread Dave Tedeyan
I also recently used the Tigo with Sol-Ark to provide the 12V signal with good success. The Tigo transmitter can also (barely) fit inside the Sol-Ark wiring compartment, so you do not need the whole Tigo enclosure for it. Cheers, Dave On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:21 PM Kirpal wrote: > Hi William. >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread Kirpal
Hi William. We have had good luck with the AP Smart Rapid shutdown system. It is similar to the Tigo in that it sends a "heartbeat" signal to the units up behind each solar panel over the power wires. I haven't tried the Tigos yet but would be open to it if the opportunity presented itself. The t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread Kirpal
Hi William. Of the 30+ Blue Planet jobs we have done - The 2.0 and HI versions the positive cable has always only just reached the top corner. When we populate only half of the cabinet we don't cut the buss bar as this will cause more work trying to get a longer replacement buss bar from Blue Pla

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread Vic Guillot
William, We did one this year, offgrid, Outback Radian with Simpliphi batteries. Used the outback rapid shutdown option which is probably similar to the fire raptor system. Cheers!, Vic Guillot Vic Guillot Sol Sierra, Inc. 209.795.3554 office 209.768.3560 mobile/text On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:5

Re: [RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread Vic Guillot
William, We have had good luck, the guy you want to talk to is Jody Powell. He has been a tech there for a couple of years or more. Vic Guillot Sol Sierra, Inc. Vic Guillot Sol Sierra, Inc. 209.795.3554 office 209.768.3560 mobile/text On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 1:18 PM William Miller wrote: > Fr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread Jerry Shafer
William In the case where l am only installing 4 or 6 batteries, l start at the top half and leave the bottom empty, l also cut the positive and negative bars and it look great after. I did ask years ago for dead fronts but it never came to be. Don't forget to address each one and get all the sn# a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread Jerry Shafer
So do you have the new cabinet or the older 2.0, Jerry On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 1:18 PM William Miller wrote: > Friends: > > > > I am installing my first Blue Planet system today. I ordered an 8kWh unit > so that means only 4 of the 8 battery positions are filled. I can’t find > anything on the B

[RE-wrenches] AC Couple Enphase microinverters to a SolarEdge Backup Interface Unit; any design insight?

2022-01-31 Thread scot.arey
We have a design challenge where we think the use of microinverters with a SolarEdge Energy Hub and inverter might provide advantages. I can not find any literature nor FAQs on AC-coupling Enphase to the backed up side of the SolarEdge Backup Interface Unit. Has anyone done it or can point me

Re: [RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread Kirk Herander
That seems very odd that that pos cable(to the breaker/ bmu) does not reach. I've done partial 2.0's before and that lead could reach any pos battery terminal, regardless of the shelf it's on. Am I missing something? Maybe 48v HI leads are different. I heat shrinked the unconnected busbar length as

[RE-wrenches] Blue Planet 8kWh instllation

2022-01-31 Thread William Miller
Friends: I am installing my first Blue Planet system today. I ordered an 8kWh unit so that means only 4 of the 8 battery positions are filled. I can’t find anything on the Blue Planet site or in the literature on how to implement only 4 battery modules. I have called every Blue Planet number

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread penobscotsolar
Hi William, We have a half dozen plus off grid systems using SolArk inverters and TIGO optimizers. They work well and the TIGO's, from my experience, have been really reliable. The necessary 12 volt signal can come directly from the relay in the SolArk inverter. Best, Daryl DeJoy NABCEP Certifi

Re: [RE-wrenches] X-240 Buzz

2022-01-31 Thread Alex MeVay
One thing you might want to check is for any DC getting into the transformer. This can cause the transformer to saturate on one side of the sinewave, leading to high peak currents and a buzz. You can try checking for this by putting a DMM set to DC across the AC line. Should be well under a volt.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Hi William, I have had good luck with the Tigo TS4-AF. Although it does require a 12VDC power supply for it's RSD transmitter, Outback, Sol Ark and Schnieder have a straight forward integration not requiring dependency of AC output from inverter. Best, Chris On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 12:57 PM Wil

[RE-wrenches] Rapid Shutdown for Off-grid systems

2022-01-31 Thread William Miller
Friends: It is quite rare for us to install off-grid systems on roof-tops. We have one coming up with about 20kW on a large barn roof. This will be our first off-grid with a module-level rapid shutdown requirement. I see no exemptions from RSS for off-grid systems in the code. I have looked

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autotransformer for Single Phase Motor Headache

2022-01-31 Thread Jay
Hi Chris, I’m not enough of an EE to know that answer. But my guess is it isn’t going to be enough to make much of a difference, still a massive hit on the inverters Given the cost of the transformers with install vs the correct motor with VFD drive. I’d go with new motor/VFD and you know f

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autotransformer for Single Phase Motor Headache

2022-01-31 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Thanks for offering Darryl, but I have pretty good data on the 120/240VAC single phase motor I am up against. NEC 430 suggests LRC is 188 A, but I am measuring more like 112A during start up. I am thinking that using the VFD for slower ramp up AND as a phase converter from single phase to three pha

Re: [RE-wrenches] X-240 Buzz

2022-01-31 Thread Foxfire Energy
Not positive, but I’d suspect resonant frequencies.. might be simple as using flat washers under the mounting screws.. maybe try adding an inductive load to skew the power factor.. gobs of information online.. good luck. db Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2022, at 10:34 AM, drake.chamber...@re

[RE-wrenches] X-240 Buzz

2022-01-31 Thread drake . chamberlin
An Outback X-240 auto transformer on a VFX3648 buzzes loudly with a load of 400 W. The sound diminishes and finally stops with higher loads. The load was an electric, oil filled space heater. Has anyone seen this before? Thank you, Drake Drake Chamberlin Athens Electric LLC Ohio Electrical

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autotransformer for Single Phase Motor Headache

2022-01-31 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi i have a single phase motor at a old install that i replaced about 8 years ago. Would it help if i made some starting load surge measurments? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 11:52 PM Darryl Thayer wrote: > Hi Chris, In the past, I was able to start a 5 hp pump motor using a VFD. > , I can not remember