[RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread RE Ellison
Is there any truth to the info that you can not do an off grid system in Florida ? I have a friend assembling parts and he was told you can’t do off grid in the state Any info out there? Thanks, Bob Ellison ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Li

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Tom Lane
There have been these off grid rumors in Florida that it is illegal . However, I have done a lot of off grid systems in Florida where there was no grid connection AND some utilities have pulled their lines in rural areas over DISPUTES ( the utilities being outrageous in my opinion) and the custome

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Steve Higgins
I was just in Southern Florida this week... and I asked the Same question of a local installer. This is what I was told: It's considered by Florida Power and Light (FPL) that if you don't have grid is not a "safe living environment" and thus any new construction must have a grid connection. I as

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Rebekah Hren
I gotta say here that utilities don't control construction permits or C.O.s, rather it is the local jurisdictional authority. So the idea that FPL is somehow mandating grid-connection for all construction seems preposterous to me. It is up to the individual AHJs, and the NEC has clear requirements

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I and clients are told this all over, not just Florida. It is pretty typical of building department and utilities. They just recite the standard line. I have even been told that you can build the offgrid home, you just can't live in it. I think I am well past 150 offgrid homes, and counting. The du

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread William Miller
773985 millersolar.com 805-438-5600 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Rebekah Hren Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 7:52 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida I gotta say here that utilities

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Chris Mason
Essentially the client is paying the utility the minimum fee to be the backup to the solar system, allowing the client to use a smaller battery system, for the few days the battery system is not sufficient the grid kicks in a covers it. That's a great deal, makes a lot of financial sense. No need f

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Irwin
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-02 Thread Steve Higgins
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida

2017-11-03 Thread Jason Szumlanski
That's what the utility or AHJ might say, but it is not the case. The utility has no say in the matter. The AHJ could raise some flags on new construction, but all you need to do is have a PE do a load analysis and supply enough juice to meet the minimum standards per NFPA 70. It may take some conv

[RE-wrenches] Off grid in Florida wells and septic tanks

2017-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
The issue of off grid power in Florida is fake news misinterpreted from On Grid Sytems powering a House after s hurricane without a legal transfer switch . However , it some situations in Florida it is illegal or a major permit issue not to hook to a city water supply OR have your own well except f