[REBOL] Re: how to update text-list?

2002-01-17 Thread pat665
Hi Carl, Thanks a lot. I will make a FAQ on that. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Carl Read" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: how to update text-list? > On 18-Jan-02, Patrick Philipot wrote: > > > Hi, Reboller

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Charles wrote: > PS: Don't take the: >> Hmmm, perhaps that was the reference I was thinking of. My >> instincts say to me that Maarten and RT have come to this decision >> together, but that's just a gut feeling and could be wrong. > the wrong way, Holger. Lots of independent deve

[REBOL] Re: How to generate a UUID?

2002-01-17 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Sunanda, << Nice analysis! Which bounces us (if I'm following right) right back to the original question. >> Ex-actly. :) Good thoughts on the elements needed to assemble a UID. My preference would be not to require an external server if it can be avoided. I think a standalone machine needs

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
In some projects I've been working on (independent of any formal 'work' environment), the project head (same guy, multiple times) has pushed for publishing with the BSD license for just such reasons. Still, would anyone else be willing to re-post the materials on another site, and let us know?

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
Thanks for the reply Holger. It cuts off one area of speculation and from your tone I think we can safely assume RT would not mind further developement of Rugby, which I'm sure all here are glad to hear. On 18-Jan-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:07AM +1200, Carl Rea

[REBOL] Re: black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Ryan Cole wrote: > Carl Read wrote: >> As I understand it, (ie - probably wrongly:), the IOS/Morpheus link >> will enable Morpheus to rightly claim they're more than just a >> file-sharing service because they'll be providing distributed >> computing as well. Unless the law is an a

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
Not to be overly critical, but I sometimes miss the connecting threads in such things. Could you summarize (at least, in the future)? Thanks. --Charles > > what happend? > > > *22-Oct-2001* > Interview: Carl Sassenrath on REBOL. OSNews.com > "..If you need object brokering such as Corba, yo

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
From: "Larry Palmiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Maarten, > > I am very sorry to hear this news. I think there is a current and on-going > need for scripts such as Rugby. There are many REBOL users who will not be > going the full IOS/Express route due to cost and other factors. Uh, yeah. Like

[REBOL] Re: Including Script Libs (was: Building scripts)

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
> Hi Charles, Yo Brett. > > Is this what you mean? > > Yes and no. Heh. It was an idea which came to me late one night while reading over some REBOL. Kind of one of those "Why don't they do like ?" > Then there is the execution model - when is the code included. I'd like to > be able to

[REBOL] Re: dbms project

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
Petr suggested a Yahoo groups list. That's not too shabby an idea. I haven't any experience with Sourceforge, except for going there to download. But it seems to me if you want a little better control over who has access to the system/mailings/files/etc, you could go with the Yahoo groups. Al

[REBOL] Re: black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread Charles
> > As I understand it, (ie - probably wrongly:), the IOS/Morpheus link > > will enable Morpheus to rightly claim they're more than just a > > file-sharing service because they'll be providing distributed > > computing as well. Unless the law is an ass, this should ensure the > > guilty parties i

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Gregg Irwin
<< As Gregg pointed out on another thread earlier, Rugby helped him prototype a system. I suspect that Rugby based prototype helped him to decide to prototype in IOS. >> The Rugby component is *still* a critical part of the system! We recently licensed IOS but I don't know yet how, or if I can, r

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread holger
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:07AM +1200, Carl Read wrote: > Hmmm, perhaps that was the reference I was thinking of. My instincts > say to me that Maarten and RT have come to this decision together, > but that's just a gut feeling and could be wrong. It is wrong. We at RT are as surprised about

[REBOL] Re: black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread Ryan Cole
Carl Read wrote: > As I understand it, (ie - probably wrongly:), the IOS/Morpheus link > will enable Morpheus to rightly claim they're more than just a > file-sharing service because they'll be providing distributed > computing as well. Unless the law is an ass, this should ensure the > guilty p

[REBOL] Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread SunandaDH
Hi Maartin, > Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may use it > (including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you stil have it. I'm sorry to hear you've concluded Rugby. And that was just as I was about to start giving it a serious look. > Goodbye, Goo

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Brett Handley
> We've just lost its original developer here - not Rugby itself. True. But Maarten will be missed if he has decided to pull out of Rebol all together. Don't do it Maarten! :) Brett. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject,

[REBOL] [Ann] Values.r

2002-01-17 Thread Andrew Martin
I've updated my Values.r. It excludes the old version Gabriele's PDF-Maker.r, and includes several updates to my HTML.r dialect script and ML.r, making HTML form design easier to do. Plus it includes a better Values.r script that recognises 'Need in the header and loads these files first, so avoid

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
Just assumptions? Or do you know for sure that train of events are the reasons? I can't see IOS being threatened by Rugby, but it's possible IOS does Rugby better than Rugby. (Plus lots of other stuff of course.) And anyway, with regards to Rugby, "You may use it (including republishing) as th

[REBOL] Re: how to update text-list?

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Patrick Philipot wrote: > Hi, Rebollers > How can one update a text-list? Surely a simple thing but ... I've > tried this and it did not work: the change button changed nothing. > Rebol [] > b-one: ["one" "two" "three"] > b-two: ["red" "green" "blue"] > win: layout [ > tl: text-

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Christian Langreiter
> Rugby is officially dead [...] Maarten, PLEASE NOT! I guess the "distributed system" in IOS (whatever you're referring to exactly) won't support XML-RPC, and I had a (maybe ;-) pretty cool application planned with RugbyXR, so please please repost it. Best regards, -- Chris -- To unsubscribe

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Cunliffe
> what happend? *22-Oct-2001* Interview: Carl Sassenrath on REBOL. OSNews.com "..If you need object brokering such as Corba, you can use a broker such as Rugby. Rugby is advanced, robust, fast, and it is written in only 1500 lines of REBOL." *31-Oct-2001 Press Release: REBOL and Morpheus join

[REBOL] Rebol/Command 3.0 ? what and when

2002-01-17 Thread Jose Manuel Alvarez
Can anybody share some info on what's planned for 3.0 and when will that release be available thanks _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- To unsubscribe

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Brett Handley
Maarten, Sounds very sudden. I hope you reconsider. People want to do things now. IOS has been coming for a very long time. Trying to evaluate it is isn't easy either. Rugby makes a distributed program in minutes - it is too useful to ignore. It is fine that you believe that there "is only one"

[REBOL] Re: black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
As I understand it, (ie - probably wrongly:), the IOS/Morpheus link will enable Morpheus to rightly claim they're more than just a file-sharing service because they'll be providing distributed computing as well. Unless the law is an ass, this should ensure the guilty parties in an exchange of co

[REBOL] [view] how to update text-list?

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Philipot
Hi, Rebollers How can one update a text-list? Surely a simple thing but ... I've tried this and it did not work: the change button changed nothing. Rebol [] b-one: ["one" "two" "three"] b-two: ["red" "green" "blue"] win: layout [ tl: text-list data b-one button "change" [tl/data: copy b-two

[REBOL] Re: black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread James Marsden
Its kinda like shooting all people who make hammers because of hammer related deaths. Perhaps we should just ban the internet and go back to writing letters? *grin* James. - Original Message - From: "Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread nitsch-lists
RE: [REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 18-Jan-02, Petr Krenzelok wrote: > > > Maarten Koopmans wrote: > > >> All, > > >> Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may > >> use it (including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you > >> stil ha

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Petr Krenzelok wrote: > Carl Read wrote: >> I had a vague feeling I'd seen Rugby mentioned on the REBOL site, >> but I can't find the reference there any more. I did notice that >> Core, Command and View are now refered to as "REBOL Messaging >> Language Products". How long has tha

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Dr. Louis A. Turk
Maarten, I agree with Petr and Larry. This is a really bad decision that will hurt rebol much more than it will help it. This is the most disappointing news I have heard regarding rebol since I have been on this list. I would certainly hope that these kind of decisions do not continue---tha

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Carl Read wrote: >I had a vague feeling I'd seen Rugby mentioned on the REBOL site, but >I can't find the reference there any more. I did notice that Core, >Command and View are now refered to as "REBOL Messaging Language >Products". How long has that been the case? > Or just look at RT website

[REBOL] Re: list and text-list questions

2002-01-17 Thread alan parman
You might find the functions below useful. The second took a long time to figure out, but it seems to work. Anyone got something that looks like less of a hack for changing data in a text-list? usage: tell face new-value or tell-list text-list-face new-data tell: func [ "changes t

[REBOL] Re: Petr correct spelling :-)

2002-01-17 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Carl Read wrote: > >Hi Petr, > >One thing I'd wondered about: Is "Petr" a Czech version of "Peter"? > Yes, sure it is :-) -pekr- -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Petr Krenzelok wrote: > Maarten Koopmans wrote: >> All, >> Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may >> use it (including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you >> stil have it. >> With IOS coming Rebol will have a built-in distributed system.

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Lok Yek Soon
At 02:29 PM 1/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Does this mean IOS is going to become/replace the default REBOL/Core ? Following is a brief take from an email I got from Scot in RT. === Thought you'd want to know, that our IOS Express real-time environment is actually built upon /Core, /Command, and

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Larry Palmiter
Hi Maarten, I am very sorry to hear this news. I think there is a current and on-going need for scripts such as Rugby. There are many REBOL users who will not be going the full IOS/Express route due to cost and other factors. I see no harm to RT, and much benefit to the rest of us, from the cont

[REBOL] Re: Petr correct spelling :-)

2002-01-17 Thread Carl Read
On 18-Jan-02, Petr Krenzelok wrote: >>> And BTW, it's Petr, not Pekr. *snicker* >> I've been wondering about that. I see Petr in his e-mail and pekr >> in the signature. But now it dawns on me that pekr may be "pe" >> joined with "kr" as a short version of his full name. >> How about it Petr,

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Maarten Koopmans wrote: >All, > >Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may use it >(including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you stil have it. > >With IOS coming Rebol will have a built-in distributed system. If IOS fails >there is no case for such thing an

[REBOL] Re: Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Cunliffe
> Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may use it > (including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you still have it. Maarten, Thank you ... but Yeow! Does this mean you are asking us not to post a copy of it on a web site ? If not then why take it down? Why

[REBOL] Re: How to generate a UUID?

2002-01-17 Thread SunandaDH
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > OK, so the only thing we have to do, if I understand things correctly, is to > come up with a unique string of data and checksum/secure will generate a > hash from that which is very likely *also* unique. :) Nice analysis! Which bounces us (if I'm following right) ri

[REBOL] Re: performances

2002-01-17 Thread holger
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 11:29:58AM +0100, olivier flauzac wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to get complexity, memory structure, and performances, of > rebol's elements, and more particularly rebol's list and blocks data types > and algorithms ? It should be pretty much self-explanatory, from the

[REBOL] Rugby RIP

2002-01-17 Thread Maarten Koopmans
All, Rugby is officially dead, the web sites have been removed. You may use it (including republishing) as the BSD license indicates if you stil have it. With IOS coming Rebol will have a built-in distributed system. If IOS fails there is no case for such thing anyway. I feel it is in Rebols bes

[REBOL] Re: performances

2002-01-17 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Olivier, << is it possible to get complexity, memory structure, and performances, of rebol's elements, and more particularly rebol's list and blocks data types and algorithms ? >> I don't think they publish that information, as it could change in the future. The few notes they do give are tha

[REBOL] Re: Image routines

2002-01-17 Thread Gregg Irwin
Thanks for posting Ashley! -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.

[REBOL] Re: How to generate a UUID? (was possible data format... Re:Re: dbms3.r 01)

2002-01-17 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Joel, Thanks for all the info. Great stuff! << Needless to say, none of this implies that synonyms fail to exist (see previous note), but simply that it should be infeasibly hard to construct a synonym for a given input. >> OK, so the only thing we have to do, if I understand things correctl

[REBOL] Newbie: HTTP Post

2002-01-17 Thread Michael Jervis
Hi, I'm new to Rebol, this page: http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-13.html#sect8.6. Shows a VERY simple HTTP Post, however, when I use it to throw some post data at a URL that just echo's back the Form data and no form data arrives. I've also seen a sample script in the Rebol library t

[REBOL] black hawk down

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Cunliffe
NY Times article today: January 17, 2002 TECHNOLOGY Black Hawk Download: Pirated Videos Thrive Online http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/17/technology/circuits/17VIDE.html The high-tech vanguard of entertainment consumers who initiated a global music-swapping spree with the help of Napster a litt

[REBOL] Re: OT: Petr correct spelling :-)

2002-01-17 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Rod Gaither wrote: >Hi Charles, > >> I know this is a sadistic request *bwahaha*, but is there any chance >>someone could collect the data format/dbms/related posts, once the thread >>quiets down, and sort of 'compress' it to a list of >>desires/wants/standards/protocols/etc? I find this projec

[REBOL] Re: Building scripts

2002-01-17 Thread Romano Paolo Tenca
Hi Brett, > In summary, I guess my interest is in: > (a) how to address reusable code snippets > (b) how to compose the new script from reusable snippets and the specifics > of the script wanted. > (c) being able to do so for a variety of situations - code is data after > all. I find interesting

[REBOL] Re: dbms project

2002-01-17 Thread Rod Gaither
Hi All, Looks like I am going to run out of free time a little earlier than expected. I am going to have to withdraw my offer of helping provide a home for the project as I won't have the time to do the admin and setup required. :-( On the list so far - 1. Vanilla 2. SourceForge 3. Yahoo

[REBOL] OT: Petr correct spelling :-)

2002-01-17 Thread Rod Gaither
Hi Charles, > I know this is a sadistic request *bwahaha*, but is there any chance >someone could collect the data format/dbms/related posts, once the thread >quiets down, and sort of 'compress' it to a list of >desires/wants/standards/protocols/etc? I find this project fascinating, but >right

[REBOL] parsing: strange behaviour, bug?

2002-01-17 Thread gpweb
Hi all, ; data is a file of about 30 Mo ; data is an ascii format like ABCDEF AVGJHJ ... POIVGA data: read %data ; this should give me all tokens but the only thing done is something like a memory leak parse data none ; making some rules allow me to parse data ; the memory use double at the beg

[REBOL] Re: How to generate a UUID? (was possible data format...Re:Re: dbms3.r 01)

2002-01-17 Thread Brett Handley
> Well, "infeasibly hard" means the probability that a random message > would have the same checksum should be about 6.84227765783589E-49 > and you shouldn't be able to do better crafting one yourself. > > The issue is not that synonyms won't happen, but that they're > unlikely and you can't pred

[REBOL] Re: How to generate a UUID? (was possible dataformat...Re:Re: dbms3.r 01)

2002-01-17 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Brett, Brett Handley wrote: > > I had thought of using checksum/secure as an ID some time back. > But the synonym possibility made be nervous. Why? > (1) Such a chance is greater than zero > (2) I believe that Murphy's law is understated. > (3) I've programming so long I'm automatically susp

[REBOL] Re: [OT] french history

2002-01-17 Thread pat665
Hi Jason [OT] >In 1999, I lived for a year in the South of France ... May be you know Montpellier where I live. >We have the Romans to thank for that effect! And William the conqueror mostly ! french has been used in England for decades after him. It's barely known for example that the King R

[REBOL] performances

2002-01-17 Thread olivier flauzac
Hi, is it possible to get complexity, memory structure, and performances, of rebol's elements, and more particularly rebol's list and blocks data types and algorithms ? Thanks Olivier Flauzac University of Reims (France) -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECT

[REBOL] Re: Parse's current index

2002-01-17 Thread Hallvard Ystad
Performing a 'skip outside the parentheses! Good idea. skip -2 didn't work, but :insert-point skip did. Thanks. I'll go to lunch with a functionning function! ~H Dixit Anton Rolls (11.12 17.01.2002): >After you have inserted your character, >you should write this: > > :insert-point skip > >Th

[REBOL] Re: Parse's current index

2002-01-17 Thread Anton Rolls
After you have inserted your character, you should write this: :insert-point skip This takes you back to your insert-point, which, as you pointed out, is at a great position, and then skips over the new character you just inserted. Or I suppose you could do this instead: skip -2 Should wor

[REBOL] Parse's current index

2002-01-17 Thread Hallvard Ystad
Hello everyone I've got a decode-url function from somewhere, did a search to find out where, but didn't succeed. Have searched the escribe site as well, but with no luck. (Did I write it myself?). Here's the code: decode-url: func [to-decode /local hex] [ hex: charset "0123456789ABCDEFabcde