[REBOL] Re: A strange place to find "Rebol"

2003-12-16 Thread Carl Read
On 17-Dec-03, A J Martin wrote: > From: > http://www.stannsparish.org/news/bulletins/bulletin-June-23-2002.3.php > Quote: > Friday, June 28, 2002 > 7:00am Mass +Anne Kenney (Ch) > by Pat and Jim Rebol > ?! If you search Google News at the moment for REBOL you'll find three links (and only t

[REBOL] [Off Topic?] A strange place to find "Rebol"

2003-12-16 Thread A J Martin
From: http://www.stannsparish.org/news/bulletins/bulletin-June-23-2002.3.php Quote: Friday, June 28, 2002 7:00am Mass +Anne Kenney (Ch) by Pat and Jim Rebol ?! Andrew J Martin Speaking in tongues and performing miracles. ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ h

[REBOL] Re: Understanding +

2003-12-16 Thread Anton Rolls
This has been fixed in REBOL/View 1.2.10.3.1 >> + 1 2 == 3 >> type? (+ 1 2) == integer! Anton. > Hello list, > > there is a difference between the documentation of the + function > in the REBOL dictionary and the one I get with HELP +. > > In the first one usage says that + a b should work,

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread James Marsden
Gregg Irwin wrote: >Hi Sunanda, > >Sac> NothingNothing is fixed in REBOL. > >LOL! :) Brilliant! > >-- Gregg > > > unfortunately that can also be read: ... it was broken from the start. and that is NOT an impression we want to convey :-( James. -- To unsubscribe

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Bruno Bord
Joel Neely wrote: >- REBOL: Life's too short to write long programs > > Nice pick ! Shall I steal this line from you to explain my co-workers why I am a Rebol ? -- Bruno Bord -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Sunanda, Sac> NothingNothing is fixed in REBOL. LOL! :) Brilliant! -- Gregg -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread SunandaDH
> Can we find a snappy one-liner? Belatedly lobbing an answer in of my own... NothingNothing is fixed in REBOL. Sunanda. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Porter Woodward
Hmm - I see this topic has generated a few messages back and forth. I haven't read all of them, those I have piqued my interest. REBOL is an interesting issue for me. I use it almost every day, and yet I've never used it to produce an external system; all the things I do in REBOL are to mak

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Gregg Irwin
Ged, Joel et al, OK, so after reading Ged's latest post: REBOL: Because code really is just data Now, the EVAL discussion interests me because I've been of the opinion that while many other languages support an EVAL function it is different than what REBOL does. Can you achieve the same th

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Ged, Ged Byrne wrote: >> >> use LWP::Simple; >> eval get ("http://your-site-here";); >> > > The code required to pass a string to another machine > and have it execute is simple enough, but it isn't > enough for the real world. > > The code as given presents a massive security risk. >

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Maxim, Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote: > > ... In this case, rebol outdoes everybody, IMHO. > For security, you can just encrypt the data before sending it, > and even that is (rather) easy to integrate right in a protocol. > That's not the only security issue. Encrypting the source as it

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Jason Cunliffe
> - REBOL: The message is the medium. excellent :-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
> -Original Message- > From: Ged Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix? > > > Looking at it again, the challange was "to describe > [the language] in terms of the problem it fixes."

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
> -Original Message- > From: Ged Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix? > > > > Hi Joel, > > --- Joel Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I disclaim all knowledge re PHP, but h

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Steven White
> Can we find a snappy one-liner? "All User-Serviceable Parts Inside" (as opposed to the common sticker on many electronic appliances that says "No user-serviceable parts inside") When I first HEARD about REBOL and who was writing it, I wanted to try it because of its alleged simplicity. When

[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread rebOldes
Hello Carl, Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 8:45:56 AM, you wrote: CR> On 16-Dec-03, rebOldes wrote: >> Hello Carl, >> As you are preparing new build of Rebol, I would like to ask you, If >> it would be possible to change somehow handling of "invalid >> datatypes" >> As I'm working on a probably

[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread rebOldes
Hello Gabriele, Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 10:35:37 AM, you wrote: GS> Hi rebOldes, GS> On Monday, December 15, 2003, 2:50:06 PM, you wrote: r>> I think the best way would be to handle these 'invalid' words as a r>> special word which would not be able to hold some values but I would r>> be

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Ged Byrne
Hi Joel, --- Joel Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I disclaim all knowledge re PHP, but here's a > trivial Perl client > to fetch and execute/evaluate source from a remote > host. > >use LWP::Simple; >eval get ("http://your-site-here";); > > > I guess one has to decide whether a

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
> -Original Message- > From: Cribbs, Jamey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix? > > > > Gabriele Santilli wrote: > > >Hi Jason, > > > >On Monday, December 15, 2003, 6:02:50 PM, you wrote

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Gabriele, Gabriele Santilli wrote: > Hi Jason, > > On Monday, December 15, 2003, 6:02:50 PM, you wrote: > > JC> Yes but that is still also true for HTML, XSLT, Perl, Python, > JC> PHP, Java, C, > JC> etc.. > > How do you MOLD some PHP code and send it to another computer? ;-) > I

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Sabu Francis
My hat in the ring: REally BEautiful Language (The "BE" because, REBOL is meant to be pronounced "REBEL") Regards Sabu Francis -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Cribbs, Jamey
Gabriele Santilli wrote: >Hi Jason, > >On Monday, December 15, 2003, 6:02:50 PM, you wrote: > >JC> Yes but that is still also true for HTML, XSLT, Perl, Python, PHP, Java, C, >JC> etc.. > >How do you MOLD some PHP code and send it to another computer? ;-) > > > I don't know how you do it in PH

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Neely
- REBOL: The message is the medium. - REBOL: Programming for "block" heads - REBOL: Life's too short to write long programs - REBOL: Fight carpal tunnel syndrome! - REBOL: Good things come in small packages - REBOL: Because Von Neumann was right! - Real Expressiveness Based On diaLects - Ra

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Gabriele Santilli
Hi Petr, On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 11:02:46 AM, you wrote: PK> Well, OTOH, AFAIK :-) (what an abbreviations :-), Rebol is not fully PK> serialisable- is it? We're not talking about generic data serialization; we're talking about the fact that code is just data that you can manipulate and

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Ged Byrne
I like this. How about taking it a little further: REBOL - You want many languages running on many machines, but a single, simple foundation. --- Jason Cunliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > REBOL - When one language just isn't enough. > > nice :-) > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, j

[REBOL] Understanding +

2003-12-16 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hello list, there is a difference between the documentation of the + function in the REBOL dictionary and the one I get with HELP +. In the first one usage says that + a b should work, while the last one says usage should be a + b. Now when I try it at the console I get for: >> 1 + 2 =

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Gabriele Santilli wrote: >Hi Jason, > >On Monday, December 15, 2003, 6:02:50 PM, you wrote: > >JC> Yes but that is still also true for HTML, XSLT, Perl, Python, PHP, Java, C, >JC> etc.. > >How do you MOLD some PHP code and send it to another computer? ;-) > > > Well, OTOH, AFAIK :-) (what an a

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Stan Silver
On 14-Dec-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can we find a snappy one-liner? > http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html (more in the spirit of the above web page) Lisp is powerful. Logo is fun. But C is practical. -- Stan Silver -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Gabriele Santilli
Hi Jason, On Monday, December 15, 2003, 8:26:50 PM, you wrote: JC> Simply I dont think it is essential or necessarily desirable to do it all in JC> one language. JC> What is essential is easy interoprability. What is essential is simplicity. Any new piece you have to add adds complexity,

[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread Gabriele Santilli
Hi rebOldes, On Monday, December 15, 2003, 2:50:06 PM, you wrote: r> I think the best way would be to handle these 'invalid' words as a r> special word which would not be able to hold some values but I would r> be able to parse this word as a normal string. You can use string parsing and then

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Gabriele Santilli
Hi Jason, On Monday, December 15, 2003, 6:02:50 PM, you wrote: JC> Yes but that is still also true for HTML, XSLT, Perl, Python, PHP, Java, C, JC> etc.. How do you MOLD some PHP code and send it to another computer? ;-) Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- REBO

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Stan Silver
On 14-Dec-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can we find a snappy one-liner? > http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html Sassenrathian Dialectic: Lisp is powerful; Logo is fun. But C is practical. Rebol is powerful, fun, and practical. -- Stan Silver -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Ladislav Mecir
A J Martin napsal(a): >REBOL - When one language just isn't enough. > > I like it. :-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: What does REBOL fix?

2003-12-16 Thread Carl Read
On 14-Dec-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can we find a snappy one-liner? > http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html REBOL: XML can't parse itself. -- Carl Read -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 - invalid word datatype

2003-12-16 Thread Carl Read
On 16-Dec-03, rebOldes wrote: > Hello Carl, > As you are preparing new build of Rebol, I would like to ask you, If > it would be possible to change somehow handling of "invalid > datatypes" > As I'm working on a probably the largest known dialect using Rebol - > the Rebol/Flash dialect ( http:/