Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:02:34AM -0700, John H Darrah wrote: > Just a side note... Bill joy gave an interview in the mid > 80's stating that EMACS was a better editor, because of it's > programability and modeless design. That was the mid-80's. Today, I find many more people sticking with vi o

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread John H Darrah
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Huter.Liu wrote: > I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor > quite well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so > I think there's now arrow key in the old keyboard and the > old vi have *NO* choice but use letter key to move > cursor?who can give me a

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:23:46PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > I have, first hand. Heavily loaded systems. Very clagged serial lines. It > happens. Hm. Well, thanks for the report; I'll keep it in mind as an observed fact. I have to believe it's pretty rare, though. Cheers, -- Dave

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07:09 26 May 2002, Dave Ihnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 04:54:58PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > Correct. | I don't think so; see my response to him. Well, uncommon. Non-arrow keys _are_ essential. | > The other thing is that arrow keys send multibyte character

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 04:54:58PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Correct. I don't think so; see my response to him. > The other thing is that arrow keys send multibyte character sequences, > not single characters. ... > ... > The hueristic in curses is to watch the timing - if these characters

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 01:34:15AM -0500, Vidiot wrote: > VI was developed long before the keyboards we use today were developed. > Back in the days before X was even developed, i.e., tty CRTs, using > curses. Please...for some of us, those days are still vivid in memory. (smileyifIdidsmileyswhic

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 02:23:58PM +0800, Huter.Liu wrote: > hi,Vidiot! > I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite > well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's > now arrow key in the old keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but > use letter

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14:23 26 May 2002, Huter.Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite | well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's | now arrow key in the old keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but | use letter key to move c

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Vidiot
>hi,Vidiot! > I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite well,but I'm >wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's now arrow key in the old >keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but use letter key to move cursor?who can >give me a picture of the oldest

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Huter.Liu
hi,Vidiot! I know the arrow key and the letter key can move cursor quite well,but I'm wondering why not just use arrow key?so I think there's now arrow key in the old keyboard and the old vi have *NO* choice but use letter key to move cursor?who can give me a picture of the oldest keyb

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Huter.Liu wrote: > hi,redhat-list! > I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is >the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional >number keys is added later,isn't it?? The

Re: why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Vidiot
>hi,redhat-list! > I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is >the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional >number keys is added later,isn't it?? Strange, the arrow keys work for me. MB -

why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor???

2002-05-25 Thread Huter.Liu
hi,redhat-list! I'm wondering why vi don't use arrow key to move cursor but use h,j,k,l???Is the oldest keyborad have no arrow key??The arrow key,home key,and the additional number keys is added later,isn't it?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¡¡¡