RE: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Trevor
If it's that critical, build a separate server (new hardware). That way if everyone starts complaining, you still have a back up server. Hardware is dirt cheap. How do you folks deal with having to take the system down to perform an OS upgrade, without much of a downtime to your users?

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Trevor wrote: If it's that critical, build a separate server (new hardware). That way if everyone starts complaining, you still have a back up server. Hardware is dirt cheap. We don't have that kind of spending money just for an upgrade, specially since after the upgrade, the extra

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Lesniak, Steven wrote: Another thought, how about buying another root disk and loading fresh on that? Take the current root out of the box and load onto a new one. This might actually be a better solution. Extra disks aren't a problem. Having said that, I am assuming you keep your

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Keith Morse
Point by Point then. On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: I need to upgrade a live system, and I wonder how people tackle this problem. The system hosts users and their websites, email and several other services. I need to perform a full OS upgrade (mainly because I'm more

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Keith Morse wrote: Save your self some down time here and generate an up to date errata image that contains the updates, and hence will be a part of the upgrade. I'll look into this. Thank you for the suggestion. This is not correct. I believe if the new sshd finds existing system

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Kent Borg
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:12:13AM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Trevor wrote: If it's that critical, build a separate server (new hardware). That way if everyone starts complaining, you still have a back up server. Hardware is dirt cheap. We don't have that kind of spending

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27-Jun-2002/09:46 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to upgrade a live system, and I wonder how people tackle this problem. The system hosts users and their websites, email and several other services. I need to perform a

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Keith Morse
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Keith Morse wrote: Save your self some down time here and generate an up to date errata image that contains the updates, and hence will be a part of the upgrade. I'll look into this. Thank you for the suggestion. This is not

Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27-Jun-2002/13:55 -0700, Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: files to be concerned with that I can think of: /etc/hosts /etc/exports /etc/sendmail.cf or /etc/postfix/* I would add /etc/mail/* Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions

2002-06-27 Thread Lesniak, Steven
than your data. I do. HTH, Steven -Original Message- From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Live System Upgrade : Call for suggestions Trevor wrote: If it's that critical, build a separate