Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-14 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On 13 Oct 2002, Peter Kiem wrote: > I have rsa2 SSH logins running now. I can see this is a great idea as > even if the attacker KNOWS your root password they STILL cannot get in > without your private rsa key, right? That's sort of correct. Root can, in fact, connect to an existing ssh-agent s

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-13 Thread Peter Kiem
Hi all, I have rsa2 SSH logins running now. I can see this is a great idea as even if the attacker KNOWS your root password they STILL cannot get in without your private rsa key, right? Is there some way to make it easier to run ssh-agent? I was trying to put the eval `ssh-agent'; ssh-add into

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-13 Thread Thornton Prime
> wrong ! With the public key and the root password known, > and files appropriately configured, the "attacker" won't > be prompted for a password. > > If the root password is known in any senario then "is all over" ! Can you clarify what you mean here? If you force key

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-13 Thread Thornton Prime
> If you have it set up like A -> B where A is your workstation and B is > your server so that A has your private key and B has your public key > what happens if you now want to log into another remote server C (A -> B > -> C)? Use agent forwarding. It will forward your key authentication-challe

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-13 Thread K Hargraves
On 13 Oct 2002, Peter Kiem wrote: > Hi all, > > I have rsa2 SSH logins running now. I can see this is a great idea as > even if the attacker KNOWS your root password they STILL cannot get in > without your private rsa key, right? wrong ! With the public key and the root password known

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-10 Thread Peter Kiem
> > Again, only if you create keys that have no passphrase. > > If you are using keys, you only need to fully trust your local SSH client. A > remote server can't compromise your public key or your passphrase, even if > you are using the compromised server to log into other servers (and are u

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-10 Thread Redhat Simon
The keys should also have a password incase of such problems and it is offered when you type ssh-keygen -t rsa. this is so much more secure as only a host with a recognised public key can even attempt to login. If you only allow rsa authentication, brute force attacks are no longer an option th

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-10 Thread Thornton Prime
> > At least if you are using passwords they need to work out the other > > computer's passwords before they can SSH into them? > > Again, only if you create keys that have no passphrase. Also, if you are using a password to log into a server that's been compromised, they don't need to work out

Re: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-10 Thread Jason Costomiris
On 10/10/02 9:31 PM, "Peter Kiem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > This might seem a stupid question but I often see people recommending that > you never log into SSH with password but rather use keys. > > Doesn't this create a security issue as if someone manages to break into one > comput

RE: Stupid question about SSH keys and security

2002-10-10 Thread Cameron . Davidson
you still need a passphrase to unlock the key. (99% of the time). So even if somebody steals your private key file they still need your passphrase to use it. It is possible to set one up with a null passphrase, but, not surprisingly, that is not recommended. If someone has stolen your private key

RE: Stupid question ?????

2002-06-08 Thread patrick1
Thanx All On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:30:36 -0700 "Hugh E Cruickshank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Patrick: > >The answer probably depends on the language you are using. In >my experience it really boils down to semantics. > >A function is a subroutine that can be invoked from your program. >Th

Re: Stupid question ?????

2002-06-07 Thread Karl O . Pinc
On 2002.06.07 09:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello people, > > Maybe a stupid question but can anybody tell me clearly what the > difference(s) > is (are) between functions and library routines ?? See http://www.foldoc.org. Functions are components of a structured program. They may or may no

RE: Stupid question ?????

2002-06-07 Thread Hugh E Cruickshank
Hi Patrick: The answer probably depends on the language you are using. In my experience it really boils down to semantics. A function is a subroutine that can be invoked from your program. That function can be define within the source file of your program or it can be defined within an external

RE: stupid question about upgrading rpm

2000-12-24 Thread Greg Wright
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 23/12/00 at 10:07 Charles Galpin wrote: >Philippe > >This is an FAQ. It has been covered before on this list several times. and >I believe is also on the Red Hat site as well. > >You need to first upgrade to rpm-3.05.* > >Then it can install rpm-4.0.

RE: stupid question about upgrading rpm

2000-12-23 Thread Drew Hunt
]]On Behalf Of Philippe Moutarlier Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: stupid question about upgrading rpm Well, this is where the problem is : to install rpm-4.0*.rpm using rpm 3.* does not work. Basically it reports that my version of rpm (3.*) is not able

RE: stupid question about upgrading rpm

2000-12-23 Thread Charles Galpin
Philippe This is an FAQ. It has been covered before on this list several times. and I believe is also on the Red Hat site as well. You need to first upgrade to rpm-3.05.* Then it can install rpm-4.0.* just fine BTW, this is *not* a stupid question, and is clearly a sticky problem that would be

RE: stupid question about upgrading rpm

2000-12-22 Thread Philippe Moutarlier
EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Jinks Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: stupid question about upgrading rpm I haven't been able to figure this out either. I think the only choices are to compile from scratch, or to do something like what

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-03 Thread Charles Galpin
hehe. stupid me answers this (supposedly) stupid question, then realizes someone else has already provided the correct answer. doh! So don't feel bad - this is the kind of effort the list needs. Lately it seems the quality/volume of responses has dropped (but this is only my opinion, and a genera

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-03 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 03:35:11PM -0500, Charles Galpin wrote: > close - it's /etc/redhat-release That's what you get when trying to answer Linux questions while sitting on front of a Solaris box... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete quotes and plain text only!"

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Charles Galpin
close - it's /etc/redhat-release On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Thomas Ribbrock wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:40:13AM -0600, Scott Skrogstad wrote: > > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > > machine? > > There is a file in /etc: > > cat /etc/rh-release > (no guarant

RE: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Paul Garcia
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stupid question When you log in usually the version comes up. - Original Message - From: "Scott Skrogstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Red Hat Mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:40 AM Subject:

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Michael S. Dunsavage
When you log in usually the version comes up. - Original Message - From: "Scott Skrogstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Red Hat Mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Stupid question > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is act

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Mike Burger
If you haven't changed your /etc/issue file, the information is usually present on the console screen (text console) prior to login, and if you haven't changed your /etc/issue.net file, it'll be presented prior to login when you telnet to the box. On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Scott Skrogstad wrote: >

RE: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Burke, Thomas G.
uname -a? > -Original Message- > From: Scott Skrogstad [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:40 AM > To: Red Hat Mailing list > Subject: Stupid question > > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > machine? > > Scott Skrogsta

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:40:13AM -0600, Scott Skrogstad wrote: > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > machine? There is a file in /etc: cat /etc/rh-release (no guarantee with regard to correct spelling...) HTH, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete q

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Steve Dixon
Look at the file /etc/issue. Scott Skrogstad wrote: > > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > machine? > > Scott Skrogstad > Computer Integration Inc, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 800-522-3475 Phone > > ___ > Redhat-list mail

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Scott Skrogstad wrote: > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > machine? cat /etc/redhat-release rpm -ql redhat-release LLaP bero ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.re

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Rick Forrister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > machine? "cat /etc/redhat-release" best rickf -- Rick Forrister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Definition: Honest Politician: Once bought, stays bought."

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Scott Skrogstad
Thanxs Rick I knew it was easy. But that is really easy... Scott Skrogstad Computer Integration Inc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 800-522-3475 Phone On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Rick Forrister wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > How the heck to I find out what version of RED HAT is actually on a > > machine?

Re: Stupid question

2000-11-02 Thread Larry Grover
cat /etc/issue or cat /etc/redhat-release for example: # cat /etc/issue Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.16-3 on an i586 /etc/issue gets written by rc.local every time the system boots. __ Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch of Med On Thu, 02 Nov 2000

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-10 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:19:21AM -0400, Ward William E PHDN wrote: [...] > That said, there is nothing that says a Winmodem can't run under > Linux... except that you need to have knowledge of how the hardware > hooks into the software DSP. And that tends to be proprietary. [...] > And what m

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-10 Thread Jerry Winegarden
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, rpjday wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > > > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > > > Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular > > > modem? > > > > > WinModem is missing most of the hardware that makes a modem. It's >

RE: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-07 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Peter Massey wrote: > >On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > >> Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a > regular > >> modem? > >> > >WinModem is missing most of the hardware that makes a modem. It's > >replaced by software that EMULATES the mi

Re: Stupid question about winmodems NOT

2000-07-07 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This describes Plug 'n Play not "soft" modems > > Linux supports Plug 'n Play > True. Howeve,r it's also true of "soft" modems. :-) John -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-07 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Steve Dixon wrote: > Actually our Lexmark that we have isn't. > Hmm...last I heard most of them were WinPrinters -- they are / were very limited under Linux. John -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.

RE: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-07 Thread Ward William E PHDN
ing to interface with a moving target, in terms of what kernel to use. Oh well. Bill Ward -Original Message- From: Peter Massey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 9:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: recipient.list.not.shown; @nswcphdn.navy.mil Subject: RE: Stupid que

RE: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-07 Thread Burke, Thomas G.
ace, thus making it impossible to develop a single LINUX driver. That's why only one or two have been made to work... > -Original Message- > From: Jake McHenry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:

RE: Stupid question about winmodems (for rday)

2000-07-06 Thread brandond
But VMware is awesome! -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Steven W. Orr
I know! Winabagels! They're wheels that only work on Winnebagos. :-) -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Stranger things have happened but none stranger than this. Steven W. Orr- Does your driver's license say Organ Donor?Black holes are where God \ --

RE: Stupid question about winmodems (for rday)

2000-07-06 Thread Juha Saarinen
%-> How about the WinPC? It would have no hardware at all, just %-> software that %-> emulates all the hardware. Now wouldn't that upset Intel? And %-> that might %-> lead to WinMicrosoft .. . A.k.a. VMWare ;-) -- Juha -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubs

RE: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Juha Saarinen
%-> one wonders what the next world's dumbest invention will be. %-> winmonitors? %-> winkeyboards? wincd-roms? winhard-drives? god, i wish i was being %-> facetious. sigh. Well, hrrmm... I'm reasonably certain that the next generation of external modems which utilise the V.92 standard will b

RE: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Peter Massey
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: >> Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular >> modem? >> >WinModem is missing most of the hardware that makes a modem. It's >replaced by software that EMULATES the missing hardware, thus making >the processor do all the

Re: Stupid question about winmodems NOT

2000-07-06 Thread tcurl
This describes Plug 'n Play not "soft" modems Linux supports Plug 'n Play Jake McHenry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/06/2000 03:23:27 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Stupid question about winmodems A regular mo

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Steve Dixon
Actually our Lexmark that we have isn't. John Aldrich wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, rpjday wrote: > > > > one wonders what the next world's dumbest invention will be. winmonitors? > > winkeyboards? wincd-roms? winhard-drives? god, i wish i was being > > facetious. sigh. > > > They've alre

Re: Stupid question about winmodems (for rday)

2000-07-06 Thread tcurl
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Stupid question about winmodems On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > > Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular > > modem? > > > WinModem is missin

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, rpjday wrote: > > one wonders what the next world's dumbest invention will be. winmonitors? > winkeyboards? wincd-roms? winhard-drives? god, i wish i was being > facetious. sigh. > They've already got WinPrinters. What do you think the Lexmark printers are? :-/

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Stephen King
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular > modem? > SK >From one Stephen King to another (imagine that!) winmodems are missing hardware that the windows OS makes up for. Thus winmodems need windows to operate and don

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Jake McHenry
A regular modem has hard set com ports and IRQ's, usually set by jumpers or not adjustable at all. A winmodem rely's on the windows operating system to determine what com port it uses when you install the modem, and it get's set temporaroly in a type of flash memory on the modem. This is why win

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread rpjday
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > > Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular > > modem? > > > WinModem is missing most of the hardware that makes a modem. It's > replaced by software that EMULATES the missing ha

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Stephen King wrote: > Could someone define for me the difference between a winmodem and a regular > modem? > WinModem is missing most of the hardware that makes a modem. It's replaced by software that EMULATES the missing hardware, thus making the processor do all the work tha

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread Juan Martinez
A winmodem is hobbled. It doesn't have all the hardware present in a real modem. It ends up being cheaper because of this and the functionality of the missing hw is made up in the Windows driver. Juan -- Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. -- Anonymous On Th

Re: Stupid question about winmodems

2000-07-06 Thread tcurl
The real question you want to ask is the difference between "hardware" modems and "software" modems. Modems, were always "hardware", yes they used firmware burnt into proms to control their functions but they were what is commonly referred to has "hardware devices. Then someone got the idea for