Re: Compression Plugin

2006-06-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Clay Barnes wrote: >Forgive me if this has been answered recently, but I haven't gotten my >last two dozen e-mails for today yet. > >Regarding the compression plugin, what sort of compression can one >expect from it? I know that compression of files like bz2 will vary

Compression Plugin

2006-05-27 Thread Hönsch Roland
What is the state of the compression plugin? Is it likely to appear in mm-sources version of reiser4 any time soon? Sincerely, Roland

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-28 Thread Peter van Hardenberg
On Monday 27 March 2006 23:25, Hans Reiser wrote: > (none of which benefit reiser4 much). Mainline will benefit R4 much. Good luck! I know you guys can do it! -p -- Peter van Hardenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Victoria, BC, Canada

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-28 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi again, > This depends on how long we remain distracted by Hellwig and company more > than by how long they take to complete. *Please* don't do this ;) I know its your god given right and I also think the same way but I would also like to see reiser4 in mainline anytime soon :-) Thanks for re

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-27 Thread Hans Reiser
> Are there any estimates of when the repacker and compression plugins > will be available / stable? This depends on how long we remain distracted by Hellwig and company more than by how long they take to complete. As soon as we go into the kernel, zam and vs focus on the compression

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-27 Thread Hans Reiser
Robert Hulme wrote: >Any of the Reiser devs have an answer to my questions? :-) > >-- >-- >"011 8 99988 199 9119 725...3" >"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over >them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." - Jesus

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-26 Thread Robert Hulme
Any of the Reiser devs have an answer to my questions? :-) -- -- "011 8 99988 199 9119 725...3" "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." - Jesus (Luke 19:27) "Religion is a

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-26 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> I've been watching the work of Hans and co. with great interest for several > years. The performance and design of Reiser4 is very impressive. But for > me, improved performance is not enough compensation for the pain of > switching to a "non-standard" filesystem. I would like to add me too, b

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Reinhart
Are there any estimates of when the repacker and compression plugins will be available / stable? I'd like to add a "me too". I've been watching the work of Hans and co. with great interest for several years. The performance and design of Reiser4 is very impressive. But for me, improved perf

Re: Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-23 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Thu 23 Mar 2006 16:26, Robert Hulme wrote: > Are there any estimates of when the repacker and compression plugins > will be available / stable? ...mumbles something about a resizer or something... Ray

Repacker and compression plugin

2006-03-23 Thread Robert Hulme
Are there any estimates of when the repacker and compression plugins will be available / stable? -- -- "011 8 99988 199 9119 725...3" "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-23 Thread Edward Shishkin
Fred Schaettgen wrote: On Thursday, 22. September 2005 22:03, Edward Shishkin wrote: Fred Schaettgen wrote: I don't quite understand how the file plugin concept scales once we get more of them. For instance if I want to have an additional attribute attached to my files, which contains

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-23 Thread Edward Shishkin
michael chang wrote: Second, will plugins be layerable, e.g. can I use a compression plugin and a _seperate_ encryption plugin on the _same_ file, There is a number of specific attributes including compression and encryption transform plugin ids, so user can assign it separately when

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:13:23 EDT, Gregory Maxwell said: > It would normally seem silly to use RSA for disk encryption... but > there might be applications, although you'd still never use RSA > directly on user controlled data. For example, RSA could be used on a > multi user server to append mail

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 9/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) RSA is useless for this - you really need a symmetric block cipher of some > sort. Almost all block ciphers are best used with maximum-entropy input - if > the attacker can lop out a large part of the keyspace, a brute force attack > be

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Fred Schaettgen
On Thursday, 22. September 2005 22:03, Edward Shishkin wrote: > Fred Schaettgen wrote: > >I don't quite understand how the file plugin concept scales once we get > > more of them. For instance if I want to have an additional attribute > > attached to my files, which contains a checksum that is kept

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread PFC
Why do you need separate ones? Having only a cryptcompress file plugin you will be able to create files which are either only encrypted or only compressed, just set the transform plugins properly. It also make sense to have compression and crypto "close" to each other, which lets the da

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:54:12 EDT, michael chang said: > On 9/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) Even though most modern block ciphers are designed to be fast, it's still > > faster to apply a reasonably quick compression scheme to whomp 16K of data > > down to 5-6K and encry

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 9/22/05, Edward Shishkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. It is impossible to implement all features in one file plugin. > Checksuming means a low > performance: in order to read some bytes of such file you will need > first to read the whole file > to check a checksum (isnt it?). So it will be

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread michael chang
pt/decrypt 16K. Two questions. One, does this mean that compression will usually be performed before encryption (which to me, sounds like it appears to be what would be the best method here)? Second, will plugins be layerable, e.g. can I use a compression plugin and a _seperate_ encryption plugin on

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:11:59 CDT, David Masover said: > > Because sometimes it is useful to compress data before encryption since > > compression > > destroys vulnerable regular structure of some special files (like *.html) > > Although I'd imagine some algorithms are fairly resistant against th

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:03:32 +0400, Edward Shishkin said: > Checksuming means a low > performance: in order to read some bytes of such file you will need > first to read the whole file > to check a checksum (isnt it?). No. Almost all modern networking gear is *perfectly* able to do incremental

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread David Masover
Edward Shishkin wrote: Fred Schaettgen wrote: On Thursday, 22. September 2005 18:41, Edward Shishkin wrote: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: Or is there another reason why you packed both things into one plugin? Because sometimes it is useful to compress data before encryption since compr

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Edward Shishkin
Fred Schaettgen wrote: On Thursday, 22. September 2005 18:41, Edward Shishkin wrote: Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: I think there should be file attribute that says whether it is compressed/whatever/ or not. Right. All the plugins responsible for compression, etc.. will be observed

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Fred Schaettgen
On Thursday, 22. September 2005 18:41, Edward Shishkin wrote: > Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: > >I think there should be file attribute that says whether it is > >compressed/whatever/ or not. > > Right. All the plugins responsible for compression, etc.. will be observed > via pseudo-file interface > >

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Edward Shishkin
Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz wrote: I think there should be file attribute that says whether it is compressed/whatever/ or not. Right. All the plugins responsible for compression, etc.. will be observed via pseudo-file interface This way, it would be possible to compress already existing files. At l

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-22 Thread Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
I think there should be file attribute that says whether it is compressed/whatever/ or not. This way, it would be possible to compress already existing files. At least, if filesystem is so flexible as everyone say, it would be possible. On 9/20/05, Edward Shishkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guy

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-21 Thread Hans Reiser
PFC wrote: > An interesting idea: select the algo and a range of compression levels per file, >>> > > A simple check on wether it's an already compressed file (using > file extension and magic number) should be quite easy to do and cheap. > > Now, intrigued by this lzo thingie,

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-21 Thread Edward Shishkin
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 9/20/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Probably lzo, which is already used for other things like network connections (ssh, openvpn, and so on). The nice thing about lzo is that it's fast, faster than gzip or bzip2, and gets decent compression -- not grea

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-21 Thread PFC
An interesting idea: select the algo and a range of compression levels per file, A simple check on wether it's an already compressed file (using file extension and magic number) should be quite easy to do and cheap. Now, intrigued by this lzo thingie, I ran a little benchmark on my emai

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
michael chang schrieb: On 9/20/05, Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An interesting idea: select the algo and a range of compression levels per file, but select the actual compression level at flush time based on some estimate of how loaded the system is.. :) Probably not worth it eve

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread michael chang
On 9/20/05, Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An interesting idea: select the algo and a range of compression > levels per file, but select the actual compression level at flush time > based on some estimate of how loaded the system is.. :) > Probably not worth it even though the amount

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 9/20/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably lzo, which is already used for other things like network > connections (ssh, openvpn, and so on). The nice thing about lzo is that > it's fast, faster than gzip or bzip2, and gets decent compression -- not > great, but decent. I don'

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 9/20/05, Clay Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgive me if this has been answered recently, but I haven't gotten my > last two dozen e-mails for today yet. > > Regarding the compression plugin, what sort of compression can one > expect from it? [snip] Just a g

Re: Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread David Masover
Clay Barnes wrote: > Also: Is the algorithm set in stone? If so what is it? If not, what > is it now/expected to be? Probably lzo, which is already used for other things like network connections (ssh, openvpn, and so on). The nice thing about lzo is that it's fast, faster than gzip or bzip2,

Compression Plugin

2005-09-20 Thread Clay Barnes
Forgive me if this has been answered recently, but I haven't gotten my last two dozen e-mails for today yet. Regarding the compression plugin, what sort of compression can one expect from it? I know that compression of files like bz2 will vary (in that they'll be essentially uncompre

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Edward Shishkin
me. I am just happy that there is at least one serious filesystem with compression available. does it mean reiser4 has a compression plugin available now? Guys, it is not available. It still requires a work and the creation interface is on a discussion level. Edward.

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
there is at least one serious filesystem with compression available. does it mean reiser4 has a compression plugin available now? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Clemens Eisserer
So yes, hmm sad that there is not compress-option - it could be easily doable with the files in the pseudo directory of every single file. This way one could select which files to compress and which not - however thats not that important for me. I am just happy that there is at least one serious fi

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Edward Shishkin
Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Hello Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hello again, I am currently re-installing my linux system and I would like to use reiser4 since I think its really powerful and great (and is well written too ;) ). However, will it be possible to convert a non-compressed reiser4 p

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hello again, > > I am currently re-installing my linux system and I would like to use > reiser4 since I think its really powerful and great (and is well > written too ;) ). > > However, will it be possible to convert a non-compressed reiser4 > partition to a compr

Re: Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Edward Shishkin
Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hello again, I am currently re-installing my linux system and I would like to use reiser4 since I think its really powerful and great (and is well written too ;) ). However, will it be possible to convert a non-compressed reiser4 partition to a compressed one withought

Will I need to re-format my partition for using the compression plugin?

2005-09-20 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hello again, I am currently re-installing my linux system and I would like to use reiser4 since I think its really powerful and great (and is well written too ;) ). However, will it be possible to convert a non-compressed reiser4 partition to a compressed one withought the need of deleting data o