Re: vs, can you port to 2.6.13 and put the port on our website as part of analyzing the latest patches added to the -mm series and their impact on reiser4 performance

2005-09-29 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Hans Reiser wrote: > ;-) > > Thanks, > > Hans > > Islam Amer wrote: > >>On 9/28/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Check out the latest cfq in the latest kernel, it is much better than >>>the others for most applications. Anticipatory used to be the best, but >>>cfq-3

vs, can you port to 2.6.13 and put the port on our website as part of analyzing the latest patches added to the -mm series and their impact on reiser4 performance

2005-09-28 Thread Hans Reiser
;-) Thanks, Hans Islam Amer wrote: >On 9/28/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Check out the latest cfq in the latest kernel, it is much better than >>the others for most applications. Anticipatory used to be the best, but >>cfq-3 is better now. >> >> >> >Yes I always had

Re: latest patches degrade reiser4 performance substantially

2005-09-21 Thread Hans Reiser
Andrew Morton wrote: >Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>At the this time we have no idea which patch is responsible, probably in >>a day or two we'll have a patch to fix it. >> >> >> > >OK. I assume this performance change is demonstrable in just >2.6.14-rc2+reiser4? Beware that

Re: latest patches degrade reiser4 performance substantially

2005-09-21 Thread Andrew Morton
Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At the this time we have no idea which patch is responsible, probably in > a day or two we'll have a patch to fix it. > OK. I assume this performance change is demonstrable in just 2.6.14-rc2+reiser4? Beware that there are other changes in the -mm line

latest patches degrade reiser4 performance substantially

2005-09-21 Thread Hans Reiser
At the this time we have no idea which patch is responsible, probably in a day or two we'll have a patch to fix it. Hans

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/11/05, PFC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, but then you have to tell postgres that it can assume these things > > about reiser4. > > you can already set the sync mode in the config file to a llot of > different choices, like fdatasync, fsync, O_SYNC, etc, so a reiser4 option > wou

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-11 Thread PFC
Well, but then you have to tell postgres that it can assume these things about reiser4. you can already set the sync mode in the config file to a llot of different choices, like fdatasync, fsync, O_SYNC, etc, so a reiser4 option would be possibel I guess.

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-11 Thread Hans Reiser
Gregory Maxwell wrote: >On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>"Reiser4 would be great if..." is getting old. It is great, and it's >>getting even better pretty fast. >> >>And, by the way, if the transaction interface gets done, it's not just >>databases that will benefit, bu

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-10 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: >> >> >> I am skeptical that it gets worse than V3, unless it is because we >> haven't put in all the bitmap optimizations we did for V3. I wish I >> knew how to measure it. > > > Me too. It's fairly subjective on my part, so maybe not. After all, > I've gone from lots-

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread Pat Double
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 09:32 pm, David Masover wrote: > Pat Double wrote: > > Actually I did make it public, hit the wrong command on my mail client ;) > > > > I did not try the -mm kernel (latest patches is for -mm5 IIRC), I use > > software suspend 2 and it does not apply to the 2.6.12.x-mm se

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread David Masover
Pat Double wrote: Actually I did make it public, hit the wrong command on my mail client ;) I did not try the -mm kernel (latest patches is for -mm5 IIRC), I use software suspend 2 and it does not apply to the 2.6.12.x-mm series. Except for this problem reiser4 has worked great for me. Since I

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread Pat Double
Actually I did make it public, hit the wrong command on my mail client ;) I did not try the -mm kernel (latest patches is for -mm5 IIRC), I use software suspend 2 and it does not apply to the 2.6.12.x-mm series. Except for this problem reiser4 has worked great for me. Since I use a single partit

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread David Masover
Pat Double wrote: Forgive me for moving to private, but I've posted this on the list before without comment. Make it public again if you like. The 2.6.12.x patches and 2.6.12.x applied from -mm have incorrect behavior when modifying the root directory. If you add or remove files in the root,

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread Pat Double
Forgive me for moving to private, but I've posted this on the list before without comment. The 2.6.12.x patches and 2.6.12.x applied from -mm have incorrect behavior when modifying the root directory. If you add or remove files in the root, the filesystem check fails. You can try this on a ram

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread David Masover
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] My ability to use it is severely hampered only being able to use it on boxes running test-kernel of the day.. which are laden with other issues unrelated to reiser4 that I don't have time to deal with. How recent

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread David Masover
michael chang wrote: On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: michael chang wrote: On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: Its alrea

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:52:49 EDT, michael chang said: > Striped RAID only works if you have multiple disks and a decent bus. > I'm stuck on the lowest-end Dell Dimension 3000, with one of the > slowest hard drives in history. And I haven't gotten around to > opening the case... yet. Newbie. ;)

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread michael chang
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > michael chang wrote: > > On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hans Reiser wrote: > >> > >>>David Masover wrote: > >>> > Raymond A. Meijer wrote: > > >On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: >

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-09 Thread PFC
So for most webserver cases, FS speed doesn't matter. For the few cases where it does, locality is usually fairly good... so who cares if the new FS is 2x faster, when it is still 200x slower than ram. Add ram. But Reiser4 helps stuffing more files into the cache. It also helps when

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely. I'm not knocking your idea, just wanted to clarify that > "Reiser4 would be great if..." is getting old. It is great, and it's > getting even better pretty fast. (sorry for reply bloat) I just wanted to point out.. that wasn't my

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Reiser4 would be great if..." is getting old. It is great, and it's > getting even better pretty fast. > > And, by the way, if the transaction interface gets done, it's not just > databases that will benefit, but also small files. After all,

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 8/8/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If ever you are looking for a killer app for Reiser4 that people who don't care about the visionary stuff will care about: Define "visionary

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
michael chang wrote: On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers better than most when my b

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > On 8/8/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If ever you are looking for a killer app for Reiser4 that people who > > don't care about the visionary stuff will care about: > > Define "visionary"? > > I ca

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 8/8/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If ever you are looking for a killer app for Reiser4 that people who don't care about the visionary stuff will care about: Define "visionary"? I can name a few things that work best in Reiser4, and very well in v3, si

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread michael chang
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hans Reiser wrote: > > David Masover wrote: > >>Raymond A. Meijer wrote: > >>>On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: > Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers > better than most when my battery

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers better than most when my battery runs out. Any idea when it will make it into the stable 2.6 kernel

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Reiser
Gregory Maxwell wrote: >On 8/8/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I should add that fsync performance has not been worked on yet, which is >>surely why postgres performance is poor. >> >> > >Hans, I'm on the postgresql hackers list (although I don't really have >a voice there,

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/8/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should add that fsync performance has not been worked on yet, which is > surely why postgres performance is poor. Hans, I'm on the postgresql hackers list (although I don't really have a voice there, so I can't really speak much for reiser4 the

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Reiser
I think we should just let the current possible big sponsor take care of the repacker sponsoring, and I will focus on making that happen. Hns

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: > Raymond A. Meijer wrote: > >> On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: >> >> >>> Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers >>> better than most when my battery runs out. Any idea when it will make >>> it into the stable 2.6 kernel? >>

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Ingo Bormuth
On 2005-08-08 16:58, michael chang wrote: > To get $90 000 USD for Reiser4 > = = = = = > > If Paypal account used on Fundable.org is owned by Namesys: > Required before Fees: $ 96550.25 > Donators at $25 ea: 3863 (-- mostly because of that last evil quarter > [...] > You also

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread michael chang
On 8/8/05, Bedros Hanounik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/8/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > PFC wrote: > > > > >>> If only it had a resizer :( > > > > > I w

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Pysiak Satriani
Hello David, Monday, August 8, 2005, 9:56:36 PM, you wrote: > What I want is the repacker, beacuse performance does steadily degrade > on my Reiser4 systems, eventually getting worse than Reiser3, but not > worse than VFAT -- probably because my old FAT partitions are on old, > virus-ridden system

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Bedros Hanounik
how many people are on reiserfs-list? On 8/8/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/8/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > PFC wrote: > > >>> If only it had a resizer :(> > > I would definitely give $25 for the repacker,

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread michael chang
On 8/8/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PFC wrote: > > >>> If only it had a resizer :( > > > I would definitely give $25 for the repacker, which is the > > > mandatory condition to get the resizer. How many people would give

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread michael chang
On 8/8/05, David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PFC wrote: > >>> If only it had a resizer :( > > I would definitely give $25 for the repacker, which is the > > mandatory condition to get the resizer. How many people would give $25 > > too ? why not do a little fundraising ? > I would gi

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers better than most when my battery runs out. Any idea when it will make it into the stable 2.6 kernel? If only it had a resizer :( Resizer isn'

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread David Masover
PFC wrote: If only it had a resizer :( I would definitely give $25 for the repacker, which is the mandatory condition to get the resizer. How many people would give $25 too ? why not do a little fundraising ? I would give $25 before it is done, only if it will be F/OSS. I would g

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Reiser
I should add that fsync performance has not been worked on yet, which is surely why postgres performance is poor. Hans Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: >Hi, > >I just wanted to say thank you for putting together reiser4 :) > >I just upgraded to the latest -mm kernel on my box and my jaw is on the >fl

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hans Reiser
Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: >Hi, > >I just wanted to say thank you for putting together reiser4 :) > >I just upgraded to the latest -mm kernel on my box and my jaw is on the >floor looking at the performance of reiser4. I have previously played around >with it on a few occasions, but I never had

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread PFC
If only it had a resizer :( I would definitely give $25 for the repacker, which is the mandatory condition to get the resizer. How many people would give $25 too ? why not do a little fundraising ?

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Ingo Bormuth
On 2005-08-08 14:09, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: > > Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers > > better than most when my battery runs out. Any idea when it will make > > it into the stable 2.6 kernel? Yes, yes, yes. I had a DMA problem and the laptop froze several times on

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Raymond A. Meijer
On Monday 8 August 2005 13:32, Hemiplegic Menehune wrote: > Its already as stable as any other fs on my systems and recovers > better than most when my battery runs out. Any idea when it will make > it into the stable 2.6 kernel? If only it had a resizer :( That's one of the main reasons I stopp

Re: reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread PFC
I just wanted to say thank you for putting together reiser4 :) Same here. The first filesystem ever which makes a crummy laptop drive look goo, and that's saying something.

reiser4 performance

2005-08-08 Thread Hemiplegic Menehune
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you for putting together reiser4 :) I just upgraded to the latest -mm kernel on my box and my jaw is on the floor looking at the performance of reiser4. I have previously played around with it on a few occasions, but I never had the chance to test it with my soft