Re: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Paul Finkelman
I would bet it is because that is the national motto and it is patriotism Paul Finkelman President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law and Public Policy Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, New York 12208-3494 518-445-3386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Well, to the same extent that the motto on currency is establishment, or the phrase Let this be our motto, In God Is Our Trust in our national anthem is establishment -- which is to say, given the courts' caselaw on this, not establishment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Sanders
Were Indiana to put this same motto on all standard license plates, and not offer its citizens any choice in the matter, I think the analogy to the currency would be perfectly apt. But this seems different. In Indiana, there's a standard plate and various optional plates. If you choose an

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Conkle, Daniel O.
I see Steve's point, but I'm not sure I agree. Other things equal, I would think that the existence of choice (even if skewed to a degree) would make the establishment clause claim weaker, not stronger. Likewise, the existence of choice suggests that there is an element of personal speech here,

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Scarberry, Mark
Perhaps this should be seen as a response to Wooley v. Maynard. The state could not require motorists to display In God We Trust. Instead of instituting an opt out scheme, it instituted an opt in scheme. Mark S. Scarberry Pepperdine University School of Law -Original Message- From:

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Sanders
I agree with Dan that it's not clear this is establishment, though for analytical purposes, I'm wondering what the best analogy might be. Given the aspect of choice, it seems a bit like school vouchers, though with religious schools getting an extra measure of subsidy. In response to Mark's

RE: Indiana License Plates

2007-03-23 Thread Douglas Laycock
In Wooley, the slogan was Live Free or Die.  Of course the same reasoning would apply to In God We Trust or any other slogan. Quoting Scarberry, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps this should be seen as a response to Wooley v. Maynard. The state could not require motorists to display In God