RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

dgment more broadly. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Rassbach > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:26 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > S

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Rassbach > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:26 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms > > > I think the issue comes down to what

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

string are mine alone, and not the Becket Fund's! Eric -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:33 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sub

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

: Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms [I sent this last night but it doesn't seem to have reached the list so I'm trying again, slightly edited.] The courts have told us that a statute that coincides with a religious belief, and that may have been enacted by legislators whose

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

I thought that "werewolves" were men who turn into wolves (or vice versa, according to Larry Niven and the Warlock). So what does it mean to "turn INTO a werewolf"? At 09:09 PM 8/6/09 -0700, you wrote: Many list members whose email programs block attachments may have wondered, as I did, what W

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

[I sent this last night but it doesn't seem to have reached the list so I'm trying again, slightly edited.] The courts have told us that a statute that coincides with a religious belief, and that may have been enacted by legislators whose votes were influenced by their personal religious belief

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

06, 2009 5:07 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms If scientists want public support for their effort -- support that I for one am happy to give even if it means taxes are somewhat highe

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

; > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] > On Behalf Of Scarberry, Mark [mark.scarbe...@pepperdine.edu] > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:06 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Law & Re

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa A. Runquist > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:54 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms > > Wasn't Galileo w

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

om: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Scarberry, Mark [mark.scarbe...@pepperdine.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:06 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Francis Collins a

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

Many list members whose email programs block attachments may have wondered, as I did, what Will Linden's point was. If you let the attachment through you will see that it includes his photo, in which, in my view, he simply looks respectably hirsute. You may be able to see it below. With appreci

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

At 04:35 PM 8/6/09 -0700, you wrote: explains his belief on the grounds that there's a probability, however infinitesimal, that he'll turn into a werewolf, would you be satisfied about his qualities? Turn INTO a werewolf?

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

__ > > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene > Sent: Thu 8/6/2009 4:35 PM > To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' > Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms > > > > I apprecia

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

ugene *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Eric Rassbach *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:51 PM *To:* Law & Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms Isn’t one of the line

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

The courts have told us that a statute that coincides with a religious belief, and that may have been enacted by legislators whose votes were influenced by their personal religious beliefs, is not thereby an establishment of religion. E.g., Harris v. McRae (no tax funding for abortions). Why s

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

erry Pepperdine From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Thu 8/6/2009 4:35 PM To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms I appreciate Eric's suggestion, but I wonder

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

instance if the person really believes that he's Napoleon) - it's whether we should consider the views in deciding whether to trust the person with a great deal of discretionary authority. Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

I'm delighted to learn that we can count on the Becket Fund to assist the ACLU in our recurring litigation against public schools that use science classes to teach religious doctrine. Michael R. Masinter 3305 College Avenue Professor of Law Fort La

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

Why do you hate elephants and turtles? From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Thu 8/6/2009 5:53 PM To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms I do think this raises a troublesome question for those of us who recognize the importance of religious toleration, and yet have to evaluate people's qualities for

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

cceptable principle of political ethics. Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Decinque Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Francis Collins and Accept

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

To be clear, I did not make that characterization. I was repeating Mr. Harris's argument. (My view would be different.) Again, I don't want to get into a religious argument (I don't think it's the point of this list) but Mr. Harris's argument was different: Even if the virgin birth is outside t

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

e historical or doctrinal evidence to the contrary? Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Marc Stern Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:59 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Francis Collins an

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

It is you who are begging the question. The question is whether religious faith and scientific commitment are inherently inconsistent. You assumed the answer to that question when you characterized his views as antithetical to the values underlying science. The virgin birth, if it happened

RE: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

lf Of Anthony Decinque Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:48 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms I think that begs the question, in a sense. You say, "If he has said anything about science that is antithetical to sound scien

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

I think that begs the question, in a sense. You say, "If he has said anything about science that is antithetical to sound science, that would be a fair ground of criticism." Mr. Collins states that he believes in the virgin birth. Is that antithetical to sound science? I don't really want to ge

Re: Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

The alleged "ideas that are antithetical to the values underlying the job" are simply his religion. Some consider his religion antithetical; he does not. It is not antithetical unless you accept certain other assumptions about the relation between religion and science -- assumptions that his

Francis Collins and Acceptable Criticisms

Francis Collins has been selected to be the head of NIH, where he will have substantial authority to allocate the nation’s scientific research funding. There are a few criticisms of Mr. Collins being made regarding his religion. For this list, I wanted to set aside a specific criticism. Specific