Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread no6b
At 8/19/2008 15:47, you wrote: >Wasn't GE's scheme to simply delay the carrier drop while >the ctcss went away... no reverse burst. My Mastr II encoder encodes reverse burst. For some reason MVP CG boards respond to reverse burst but do not encode it, nor do they drop CTCSS before dropping TX.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread no6b
At 8/19/2008 13:05, you wrote: >The problem is, if everybody uses the same tone, there is no immunity >created. > > > >Remember too that CTCSS doesn t SOLVE anything& it just masks the symptoms. Yes, but if the symptoms are minor (signals below the 12 dB SINAD point), they may not be worth the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] De-Sense and Circulator Question

2008-08-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
John, I don't think a circulator will do much for desense, since its primary purpose is to protect the PA from being damaged by an incorrect load impedance. Of course, it will greatly reduce the chances of IM interference. The Motorola T-1504A duplexer is barely adequate for a 90-watt transmitte

[Repeater-Builder] OK, this one is driving me nuts.... VXR-7000

2008-08-19 Thread Jerry Steele
On the VXR-7000, the RJ45 pins 1 and 2 are the collector and emitter respectively of an optoisolator that changes state when the squelch is broken and the correct pl/dpl is used. www.jammerdave.com/vertex.html says to connect the pin 1 to the pl detect of the repeater controller and pin 2 to g

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connectors needed Heliax

2008-08-19 Thread Steve & Peg
I do have a pair of these, both N female on Andrew LDF7-50. They are used but in serviceable condition. Steve KB3FPN - Original Message - From: Ray Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Connectors needed

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
Rich, Please re-check that part number- the number 19D436272G1 applies to some sheet-metal parts, and not to any power supply, according to my GE microfiche file. Regardless of the part number, your symptoms are typical of a power supply in which one of the rectifier diodes has opened. You can c

[Repeater-Builder] FW: NEW Kenwood TKR-750K1 (V2.0)

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Mullarkey
If any of the clubs or hams that want a new in the box one month with 2 year factory warranty. Email me off the list before tomorrow or I will sell it on EBay. I had one person that was interested but there EC decided to go cheep and mate two Maxtrac radios to make a repeater. To all Kenwood U

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Good source for single channel Motorola radios for portable repeater?

2008-08-19 Thread Peter Dakota Summerhawk
Ok got a set of M-10 off eBay for the portable set. Now all I have to do is get them programmed. They are rated at 25W but I don't want to risk burning them out so can they be adjusted to low power? And what is low power for the units? 15W? Been hunting eBay for a RICK and found some that might wor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB Antenna, Motorola Number

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Dietrich
Cort, Some of the DB series uhf antennas had the flat straps that came from the dipoles and went around the mast and bolted together with the strap from the other side. The antenna should also have the moulded connections to the dipoles, this is the later version antennas. Mike - Origina

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desktrac UHF 40 Watts Repeater Default Archive

2008-08-19 Thread Camilo So
Hi Joe, I am not aware that there is 2 separate software that is use on Desktrac, What is the version of the software that program the front panel? So that I can order it from Motorola, to my knowledge the only software that is needed to program the Desktrac is RVN4080 version R03,04,00. When yo

[Repeater-Builder] DB Antenna, Motorola Number

2008-08-19 Thread Cort Buffington
Folks, I have a strange beast. I have an antenna that appears to be of the DB-420 "style" (UHF 8 dual-bay folded dipole array). It has a DB Products tag that while very worn reads model number TDE6400A-B. This looks like a Motorola number to me? There is one difference in construction. Rat

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Absolutely. Then again, that doesn't always happen. I remember an incident with two repeaters about 80 miles apart that had mixing products 600KHz apart. Both machines were clean. they just happened to have outputs spaced 600 KHz. Everything was fine until both machines were up at the same

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Absolutely. However I don't necessarily think the point is moot, depending on the severity and frequency of the problem. Your comment kind of begs the question though. "if you're not using it to mask a problem, what's it there for ?". I understand how it can help out with cochannel interfer

RE: [Repeater-Builder] De-Sense and Circulator Question

2008-08-19 Thread John Transue
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DCFluX Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] De-Sense and Circulator Question Are you using LMR series or Belden 9

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: > Exactly. If all the repeaters in the same area use the same tone, then any > mixing products, etc. also carry that tone. > > > > Mike > > WM4B Mixing products are a problem that would need to be fixed anyway. PL doesn't get rid of it, it just masks it. So the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: > The problem is, if everybody uses the same tone, there is no 'immunity' > created. > Ummm-it's only a problem when two repeaters are on the same frequency...

[Repeater-Builder] THANKS!!!

2008-08-19 Thread n9wys
I feel like such a **DOLT**!!! After thinking about this problem of mine, I decided to try something... I do not own a service monitor, so I have been doing my all of my tests "on the air" with an HT. I read something somewhere about MICOR Community Repeaters being configured without "conventiona

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread skipp025
> if you run full time tone mode you can run open squelch > (i.e. and blow raw carrier into the tone decoder) and > maximize the system sensitivity. ... with an advisory caution to use a serious quality ctcss/dcs decoder. Less than optimal designed circuits might false on or off. > This is be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I take the position that any mix or spurs need to be resolved since it will continue to cause problems regardless of CTCSS. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scanner as repeater receiver?

2008-08-19 Thread Nate Duehr
John Barrett wrote: > Is there anything out there a little more integrated that can handle the > job, or other suggestions as to a solution ?? Prefered environment is > Windows, with some hope that a "service app" that will run at boot can > be found. 2 way solutions like Echolink and Asterisk

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Exactly. If all the repeaters in the same area use the same tone, then any mixing products, etc. also carry that tone. Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Chuck Kelsey
He is suggesting that a particular geographic area utilize the same tone, not that everyone utilize the same tone. I believe that most frequency coordinators do just this. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF MICOR Unified Chassis

2008-08-19 Thread n9wys
Everyone, today I tried contacting Motorola parts for a manual and/or schematic for the Master Decoder module I have, Part #TLN5803A. Needless to say, navigating Motorola's call-handling system was a real trip. First I ended up with someone in "Cell Phones", then someone in "Recreational Radio". I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] De-Sense and Circulator Question

2008-08-19 Thread DCFluX
Are you using LMR series or Belden 9913 for a feedline? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM, John Transue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Members of Repeater Builder have been very helpful in my effort to improve > the operation of a 440 repeater. The de-sense problem is reduced now by the > addition of

[Repeater-Builder] De-Sense and Circulator Question

2008-08-19 Thread John Transue
Members of Repeater Builder have been very helpful in my effort to improve the operation of a 440 repeater. The de-sense problem is reduced now by the addition of another cavity, a band pass cavity on the receive leg. Now I am wondering whether a circulator would provide additional isolation and fu

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
The problem is, if everybody uses the same tone, there is no 'immunity' created. Remember too that CTCSS doesn't SOLVE anything. it just masks the symptoms. Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 09:36 AM 08/19/08, you wrote: How could it be more sensitive with CTCSS? I'm not sure I understand. de N5ZTW A CTCSS decoder looks for a precise tone frequency in a narrow band, so it's fairly sensitive. A squelch circuit looks for noise (no signal present) and loss of noise (signal presen

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread Laryn Lohman
You are aware that these GE supplies are unregulated... The voltage can vary from 15.5-16 unloaded and easily drop 2-3 volts with a good load on it. At least not the common series pass regulation. Things like power amps and lots of other devices don't care. What are the *seismic* voltage variat

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread scomind
How could it be more sensitive with CTCSS? I'm not sure I understand. de N5ZTW A CTCSS decoder looks for a precise tone frequency in a narrow band, so it's fairly sensitive.?A squelch circuit?looks?for noise (no signal present) and loss of?noise (signal present)?in a much broader band?above t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread no6b
At 8/19/2008 07:41, you wrote: >I'm thinking that if you really want to have one, and you can get away >with it, OK. But sooner or later, an out-of-town signal will tie it up >and cause grief to others on the frequency. *ALWAYS* have the means to >put it in CTCSS access remotely. Not to mention the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread Dave
Thanks Del for your input. It seems this gentleman has not understood everything. As always you direct input is most appreciated. By the way. That rigblaster plus I use has now exceeded many many contacts in ALL modes. Still going strong. Numerous hams have dropped in my shack. They try it and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How could it be more sensitive with CTCSS? I'm not sure I understand. de N5ZTW - Original Message Follows - From: "Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:41:09 -0500 > I am curious why anyone in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread DCFluX
Main filter caps, they like to dry out over time and also have a tendency to explode. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:46 AM, wd8chl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > enjoyacold807 wrote: >> Your basic GE Mastr II rack mount pwr supply (ref PL19D436272G1 Rev >> A) was part of club WA8UXP's 2m GE MastrII (base

Re: AW: [Repeater-Builder]Low Band Base Antenna Info Wanted

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
Siegfried Jackstien wrote: > hi folks > > just a question: > end fed halfwave with radials??? > impedance 50 ohms??? > > an endfed halfwave has a builtin stepuptransformer or something similar > so impedance on the connector is probably 50ohm BUT ... no radials needed > it is an end fed verti

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Squelch Repeater Operation

2008-08-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I own and operate a Micor UHF machine 25 miles west of Austin (Texas) with no CTCSS. It also has an IRLP node. I have no issues at all. This includes mornings where we have intense ducting. I intend to keep it off unless I see a need. I too like the fact it is more "open" for general ham use. I say

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
enjoyacold807 wrote: > Your basic GE Mastr II rack mount pwr supply (ref PL19D436272G1 Rev > A) was part of club WA8UXP's 2m GE MastrII (base) repeater (146.985 > Mhz) until it started acting up (a few years ago). Basically, the no > load voltage looked ok. But, once the 100w PA kicked in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mike, > Now wait just a minute. Cochran is not in the middle of nowhere because > I live in the middle of nowhere. I like the two repeaters with carrier > squelch. I have always thought of CTCSS as an inconvenience, but maybe > in more populated areas it is becoming mu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-19 Thread wd8chl
I'm thinking that if you really want to have one, and you can get away with it, OK. But sooner or later, an out-of-town signal will tie it up and cause grief to others on the frequency. *ALWAYS* have the means to put it in CTCSS access remotely. Not to mention the inevitable noise burps that sh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 6326

2008-08-19 Thread Jack Davis
Repeater BuilderThese supplies are Ferro resonant and use an AC capacitor to resonate with a winding on the transformer. Check the capacitor first, it should be a 5 or 7 uF AC model rated at 660 volts. They are easy to find as W. W. Grainger carries them or an equivalent model. If the winding

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread Jim Brown
The condition you describe could be caused by an open diode rectifier.  If only one diode is working the regulation would be very poor but the no-load voltage output could look normal. Take a close look at the two diodes and make sure both are operational. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Mon, 8/18/08,

[Repeater-Builder] VoIP Remote (was Scanner as repeater receiver?)

2008-08-19 Thread Jim Brown
One solution that is often overlooked is the Signal Link USB.  This external sound card has provisions for VOX keying of a radio (or repeater controller input) with no other hardware required.  No serial port or parallel port interface is required (The Signal Link is interfaced and powered from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread dmurman
A few years back I had a problem with the GE power supply similiar to yours. What I found out the fuse was the problem. Replaced the 30 amp fuse and haven't had a problem since. Did you try replacing the fuse? David = From: enjoyacold807 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/08/1

AW: [Repeater-Builder]Low Band Base Antenna Info Wanted

2008-08-19 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
hi folks just a question: end fed halfwave with radials??? impedance 50 ohms??? an endfed halfwave has a builtin stepuptransformer or something similar so impedance on the connector is probably 50ohm BUT ... no radials needed it is an end fed vertikal (dipole) IF it is a halfwave best 73´s d

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scanner as repeater receiver?

2008-08-19 Thread Gunnar Widell
Have you looked at SvxLink? This is not Windows, but Linux. The installation is not complicated, and with SvxLink you only need a PC, no external hardware. At our repeater we use two or three RX linked in via internet. On the reciver sites the only needed hardware is the RX itself and a PC. The PC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread Richard Reese
If it is the factory supply it is the fero resonant one and usually it is the capacitor that goes bad. I remember the old days of the Goodyear Fest at Wingfoot Lake!! There was a time when it was the best fest in NE Ohio. Oh well. Times have changed - even Wingfoot Lake is for sale now.

[Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II PWR SUPPLY - What dies first?

2008-08-19 Thread enjoyacold807
Your basic GE Mastr II rack mount pwr supply (ref PL19D436272G1 Rev A) was part of club WA8UXP's 2m GE MastrII (base) repeater (146.985 Mhz) until it started acting up (a few years ago). Basically, the no load voltage looked ok. But, once the 100w PA kicked in the voltage swings made a sunami

[Repeater-Builder] ICOM IC VR 8050

2008-08-19 Thread leo ver
HI Guys!   Wondering if anyone is familiar with the ICOM IC VR 8050 repeater.   I was able to get a copy of the manual and the specs states that it would cover 150-170MHz.   Would it re-tune between 144-145Mhz ?     How about the performance of the machine?   any help / info / or comment would b

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scanner as repeater receiver?

2008-08-19 Thread John Barrett
I'm consulting with another ham on setting up a one way VoIP link for a split site VHF repeater, RX and TX to be located about 2 miles apart. I've got a tenative solution using and off the shelf streaming audio server and client, with a custom app to poll the PC parallel port for any digial sign

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Build your own

2008-08-19 Thread Joe Burkleo
Dave, I am not sure what your intended use of the repeater is, but you have gotten lots of good advice. If you are looking for something to use at your or a buddy's house, you can get by with a lot less investment than if it is going up on a mountain top somewhere. As was mentioned UHF or 900 MHz

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desktrac UHF 40 Watts Repeater Default Archive

2008-08-19 Thread Joe Burkleo
You do realize that there are 2 seperate pieces of software that is required to program the Desktrac repeaters. One is for the front panel and the other is for the radios. There us a small switch on the front panel that chooses which programming mode you are in. Just to be clear as to what you are