Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-21 Thread Bob Dengler
At 6/15/2005 12:31 PM, you wrote: Now you know why the California Highway Patrol is still on 42-43 mhz (and when the LA County Sheriffs abandoned their 39mhz channels the CHP snapped them up and are using them as repeater inputs). Whoever's in charge of CHP comm. is a true RF engineer, utilizing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-16 Thread Mike Pugh
Kevin, my curiosity is killing me, how in the world do you know where Crum Kermit are? Been there many times myself.. How about Justice W.Va? Mike Kevin Custer wrote: Jim B. wrote: I've driven through WV, even 2M dosen't get into some of those valleys. You mean places like Crum or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-16 Thread Jim B.
Kevin Custer wrote: Jim B. wrote: I've driven through WV, even 2M dosen't get into some of those valleys. You mean places like Crum or Kermit, in southern West Virginia? grin Kevin heh-I was just talking about the interstates! But we do have a friend with relatives in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Fred Seamans
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust If that's the problem, 3 dB ain't going to make the difference. Looks to me the problem is the system receiver / not the transmitter. Neil - WA6KLA The problem is Not in the system Receiver

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: At 03:20 PM 6/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: The extra will not make the difference, trust me, I went from 100 watts at the antenna to 85 watts and no one knows the difference. The problem that you are dealing with is a supherp amount of intermod in that city. My take

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Jim B.
Fred Seamans wrote: I agree with the other comments that 62 to 100 watts output will not make that much difference. From your description if the handhelds power output of ?(2 to 5 watts), is making it into the repeater receiver at full saturation and 62 watts out of the duplexer is not making

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: At 09:23 AM 6/15/2005 -0400, you wrote: If you're concern is mobile coverage in hilly terrain, go 2M, or better yet 6. ---Gee, are you saying that 800 Mhz trunking in such topography isn't a good idea? LOL! Ken (I lost count of all the public safety agencies who went

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:03 AM 6/15/2005 -0400, you wrote: That's why I was surprised to hear WV went to UHF (from LB) for their state-wide system! I've driven through WV, even 2M dosen't get into some of those valleys. ---Sometimes I wonder exactly where APCO is coming fromI guess all one needs do it read

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:03 AM 6/15/05, you wrote: Ken Arck wrote: At 09:23 AM 6/15/2005 -0400, you wrote: If you're concern is mobile coverage in hilly terrain, go 2M, or better yet 6. ---Gee, are you saying that 800 Mhz trunking in such topography isn't a good idea? LOL! Ken (I lost count of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-15 Thread Kevin Custer
Jim B. wrote: I've driven through WV, even 2M dosen't get into some of those valleys. You mean places like Crum or Kermit, in southern West Virginia? grin Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Ken Arck
You're worried about less than 3 Db? Why? Ken At 07:23 PM 6/14/2005 -, you wrote: Hello all from Don KA9QJG, I have a Hamtronics 220 Exciter T-301 Peaked at 2 Watts That is driving My TE-System repeater amp gives me 80 Watts, Amp is rated at 130 Watts Continues, With the 80 Going into the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread KA9QJG
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust You're worried about less than 3 Db? Why? Ken I have Some Ham Friends who work in the Steel Mills near Gary Ind, they cannot get into the Local 2 Meter Repeater . but can get in on 220, But not Hear it very good so I thought just Maybe

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:44 PM 6/14/2005 -0500, you wrote: I have Some Ham Friends who work in the Steel Mills near Gary Ind, they cannot get into the Local 2 Meter Repeater . but can get in on 220, But not Hear it very good so I thought just Maybe a little more wattage from My cottage might just help penetrate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread KA9QJG
If that's the problem, 3 dB ain't going to make the difference. Looks to me the problem is the system receiver / not the transmitter. Neil - WA6KLA The problem is Not in the system Receiver, Repeater hears them Great No noise, But They do Not hear the Repeater that good in the Steel

[Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Don
Hello all from Don KA9QJG, I have a Hamtronics 220 Exciter T-301 Peaked at 2 Watts That is driving My TE-System repeater amp gives me 80 Watts, Amp is rated at 130 Watts Continues, With the 80 Going into the Duplexer I get about 62 Watts at out at the Ant. I would like to use My Mirage 220 C22

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Rick Charlotte
On 14 Jun 2005 at 19:23, Don wrote: With the 80 Going into the Duplexer I get about 62 Watts at out at the Ant I would like to see about 100 Watts at the Ant some people do not read at all .. I think if you up the power and do get 39 more watts to the ant that could make a verry

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread KA9QJG
Well I thought it would Make a difference Too, I was Just asking the Best way to Set the Exciter, Ant is a Hustler G-7 7Db Gainup at 80 Ft. And feed with 125 Ft. with Andrews LDF-450 Hard line, I got all the other it will not Make a difference between 62 Watts and 100 Watts at the Ant.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread NĂ˜ATH
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust Well I thought it would Make a difference Too, I was Just asking the Best way to Set the Exciter, Ant is a Hustler G-7 7Db Gainup at 80 Ft. And feed with 125 Ft. with Andrews LDF-450 Hard line, I got all the other

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Mathew Quaife
The extra will not make the difference, trust me, I went from 100 watts at the antenna to 85 watts and no one knows the difference. The problem that you are dealing with is a supherp amount of intermod in that city. My repeater can be heard in Merriville, and surrounding areas, but some of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Mathew Quaife
If you do that, then you are not working it properly, they may be able to hear the output just fine, but when you go back through the duplexer, then you get the loss of the duplexer and if possible any desence that might be present. Also, how far are you from Gary? This in itself could also be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Rick Charlotte
let us know how it works out .. don't forget ever watt you can get up there you get a ' 7db gain' .. so the 20 odd watss should make a difference Rick On 14 Jun 2005 at 16:06, KA9QJG wrote: Well I thought it would Make a difference Too, I was Just asking the Best way to Set the Exciter,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:20 PM 6/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: The extra will not make the difference, trust me, I went from 100 watts at the antenna to 85 watts and no one knows the difference. The problem that you are dealing with is a supherp amount of intermod in that city. My take on the problem is that of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Rick Charlotte
Your Right Ken .. this could be all for nothing .. but if you don't take the time to try you will not learn .. and maybe all he needs is a couple of watts to just give them enough sig in the mill for them to RX better .. never know untill you play and learn ! .. and 220 is a fun band to play

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Dave VanHorn
I suspect the shorter wavelength of 220 is able to be reflected and refracted inside the building much more easily than does 2 meter energy. I bet UHF would perform even better but there are too many variables to say for certain. For construction crews, 440-ish wavelengths are MUCH more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Neil McKie
Hey Ken, It's dB ... not Db ... Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 04:47 PM 6/14/2005 -0400, you wrote: if you have a 3 db gain and and up your OUTPUT power out of the duplexer lets say 40 watts @ 3db gain .. you would be pushing another 80 watts out .. if you look at it this way ..

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:37 PM 6/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Hey Ken, It's dB ... not Db ... ---Actually Neil, it's a little known factoid of History that Bell was actually more concerned in roadway paving than he was in working out any sort of logorythmic scale. But as so often happens, he found that the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:44 PM 6/14/05, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:20 PM 6/14/2005 -0700, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The extra will not make the difference, trust me, I went from 100 watts at the antenna to 85 watts and no one knows the difference. The problem that you are dealing with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exciter Power Adjust

2005-06-14 Thread Neil McKie
Guess he didn't create an Arck ... Ken Arck wrote: At 06:37 PM 6/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: Hey Ken, It's dB ... not Db ... ---Actually Neil, it's a little known factoid of History that Bell was actually more concerned in roadway paving than he was in working out any sort of