[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-19 Thread radio5000
Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the hardline and theantenna, trash therepeater and take offers on the cans. If your

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Al Wolfe
it is to make. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: Al Wolfe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 16 March, 2006 05:31 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Dick
and the easier it is to make. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: Al Wolfe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 16 March, 2006 05:31 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered arou

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread radio5000
Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the hardline and theantenna, trash therepeater and take offers on the cans. If your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the hardline and the antenna, trash the repeater and take

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Dick
OK, I'm getting intereswted in the enire 6 m rptr...the whole kit kaboodle. Where are you and it? TNX 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 18 March, 2006 12:26 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Ted Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the hardline and the antenna, trash the repeater and take

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
, 2006 3:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Vincent Caruso
where are you located? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the hardline and the antenna,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread radio5000
Northwest Florida, Panhandle In a message dated 3/18/2006 3:31:12 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: where are you located?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set ($1200), and I have been informed that everything

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-18 Thread Tom Manning
in the duplexers. If the hardline is available very cheap pls advise me off group. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread Dick
Al, the bigger the heliax diameter, the higher the Q and the easier it is to make. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: Al Wolfe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 16 March, 2006 05:31 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread Dick
, 2006 16:00 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Thanks Ron I did try large heliax but it was not really a great success as you say with just 500 split it can be difficult, but the frequencies are allocated by our regulator here in the UK I have every thing else working fine, tx/rx

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread Paul Holm
For all the looking I've done, I've only ever found one place on the web that had 4 or larger copper pipe available. And it was something like 30.00/foot. Has anyone found better sources for this type of pipe for building cavities? 73 Paul - Original Message - If you look

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread n3dab
Forgot to mention: check with any large plumbing contracors or at large building construction sites where they might be using large dia. copper pipe for supply or waste piping. If you find any sites where they are using what your looking for they may let you have some scrap pieces just for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin King
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Holm Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer For all the looking I've done, I've only ever found one place on the web that had 4 or larger copper pipe available

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
There is also 6 and 3/8 heliax. I know this for sure as I saw a 15-20 foot length hiding in the grass behind a hilltop transmitter building a year or two ago. Dunno how well it would work for a duplexer. Mike WA6ILQ At 08:29 PM 03/17/06, you wrote: Check your local or area scrap metal salvage

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-17 Thread n3dab
Final post: Depending on size (dia.) and length you might consider getting sheet copper of the appropriate thickness and having a sheetmetal fabrication shop cut it and roll it to your dimensions. They could also form a lap seam or lock seam where the 2 edges meet and cut your end plates

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Al Wolfe
Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax. Has anyone used 3 1/8 stuff? Would there be any advantage to using the larger size? I have some available. Has anyone used the foam 1 5/8 instead of air line for a duplexer?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Erik Finskas
steve wrote: yes a strange band is 6mtrs. I like it and in the past have worked good dx, with psk31 and CW to the states. There is in the UK a repeater on 29Mhz wonder what duplexer that uses ?. Split site is very common on 10m and 6m repeaters, there's no need for man-size duplexers then.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Perryman
-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax. Has anyone used 3 1/8 stuff? Would there be any advantage to using the larger size? I have some available. Has anyone used the foam 1 5/8 instead

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread steve
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax. Has anyone used 3 1/8 stuff? Would there be any advantage to using the larger size

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread steve
Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: yes a strange band is 6mtrs. I like it and in the past have worked good dx, with psk31 and CW to the states. There is in the UK

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread radio5000
All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans and a 4 bay folded dipole arrayfor sale. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Perryman
PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:15 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans and a 4 bay folded

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread radio5000
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:15 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Bruce Forestal
Al, Using 3 1/8 Heliax is approaching the proper length to diameter ratio for optimum Q which should provide a deeper notch and increase the total isolation. It may even be enough to eliminate one cavity per leg. All of the designs I've seen use the foam type, I doubt the air line

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
And the equipment is located where? Chuck WB2EDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans and a 4 bay folded dipole array for sale.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Jim B.
... - Original Message - From: Erik Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer snip .. Erik OH2LAK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread radio5000
Northwest Florida. Niceville Will KC4YBZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the equipment is located where?ChuckWB2EDV[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans and a 4 bay folded dipole

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread skipp025
Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax. Has anyone used 3 1/8 stuff? Probably not yet. Would there be any advantage to using the larger size? I have some available. Yes, higher Q = better performance. Has anyone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread steve
:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: Hi OH how I wish I lived in the USA. In the UK we can't do any of what you say, no links, no split tx rx infact our 70Cm band is on a secondary basis, the military have priority and no new 70Cm rptrs have be licenced

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Jim B.
steve wrote: Hi Jim yes I know. I was just saying that if I lived in the USA I could run 200w split tx/rx sites with mcrowave links and not worry about duplexers... Ah... It sure seems like there ought to be some way to do it. It's done in other EU countries... Any other UKer's out there

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
OK, thanks. Now 95% of the people on this list can relax because they live too far away to go get it. Chuck WB2EDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northwest Florida. Niceville Will KC4YBZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the equipment is located where? Chuck WB2EDV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread steve
- From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: Hi Jim yes I know. I was just saying that if I lived in the USA I could run 200w split tx/rx sites

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Robin Midgett
PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer snip .. Erik OH2LAK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC 615-322-5836 office - rolls

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread Robin Midgett
I'm not, but he's waaayy too proud of it. At 01:41 PM 3/16/2006, you wrote: OK, thanks. Now 95% of the people on this list can relax because they live too far away to go get it. Chuck WB2EDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northwest Florida. Niceville Will KC4YBZ [EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-16 Thread JamesMNelson
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Well guys, I have read all the posts so far in this thread... The heliax notches do workquite well, but they are most certainly not plug-n-play. 1) You must pay strict attention to the design criteria, maximum

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator
Steve, Since you have 500 kHz split you will need cans which as you have found expensive. Some have used 1-5/8 heliax with success, but don't think at 500 kHz. Wish I could say more. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi can anyone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread DCFluX
I've used 1 5/8 on 51.82 / 51.32 before I found out that 6 meters sucked. On 3/15/06, Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Since you have 500 kHz split you will need cans which as you have found expensive. Some have used 1-5/8 heliax with success, but don't think

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread k1ike_mail
6 meters is a very different band and does not always act like the typical 2 meter repeater band. It's somewhere between HF and VHF, has some unique problems with noise (both manmade and natural). It takes a lot of perseverance and patience to get a 6 meter repeater working well. When it's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6 meters is a very different band and does not always act like the typical 2 meter repeater band. It's somewhere between HF and VHF, has some unique problems with noise (both manmade and natural). It takes a lot of perseverance and patience to get a 6 meter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread Lee Williams
I think split sites with a link would work the best on 6 meters. Duplexers are large and expensive for 6. Spacing may need to be in milesYMMV! DCFluX wrote: I've used 1 5/8 on 51.82 / 51.32 before I found out that 6 meters sucked. On 3/15/06, Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread steve
Message - From: Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Steve, Since you have 500 kHz split you will need cans which as you have found expensive. Some have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread steve
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6 meters is a very different band and does not always act like the typical 2 meter repeater band. It's somewhere between HF and VHF, has some unique problems with noise (both

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread skipp025
I agree... One other thought is that a lot of you guys are using the lower range repeater pairs. Joe and myself are up on the high end of the band and sometimes that extra mhz or two makes a pretty big difference. Moving up is something to really think about if you're getting hosed. Even

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread skipp025
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home-made heliax one. If you take the electrical diagram of my commercial Decibel LB Duplexer and compare it to the heliax unit, you'll see they are the same animal. The Decibel Duplexer replaces the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home-made heliax one. If you take

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
] Behalf Of Mike Perryman K5JMP Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Well guys, I have read all the posts so far in this thread... The heliax notches do workquite well, but they are most certainly not plug-n