[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-04 Thread hngni
hi see link below it may be of help i have built a 145mhz duplexer and used the loop and cap that i can rotate 2 cans give me 70+db I used cable lengths below rg223 1) what should be my cable lengths between cans.= 1/4 WAVE APPROX 34CM FOR 145MHZ 2) what should my cable length between the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-03 Thread skipp025
Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote: I am going to try to build my own loop assemblies based on some Sinclairs I have seen. I will post photos as well. The Telewave loop assemblies are almost $80 each. That isn't bad, but if I can build them to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-02 Thread skipp025
allan crites wa9...@... wrote: Gentlemen: For those wishing to convert a BP cavity to operate as both a BP and notch cavity there exists a simple and convenient way to do so with out having to do surgery on the innards of the cavity. We're all about simple and convenient... One only

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-02 Thread allan crites
--- On Tue, 2/2/10, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:02 AM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-02 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Feb 01 21:55:35 2010 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. Norm, The purpose of using 1/2 WL transmission lines to connect to each side of the variable capacitor is to get the cap as close as possible to the coupling loop. The 1/2 WL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread kd4wov
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote: Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. You would not be restricted to using DB/Andrew/DB-Spectra loops if the proper type and size were available from another source. Regardless, the price is probably going

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Feb 01 07:46:16 2010 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , skipp025 skipp...@... wrote: Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. You

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread allan crites
have any problems or questions I will be willing to help. Just ask. Allan Crites WA9ZZU --- On Mon, 2/1/10, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote: From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. To: Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread NORM KNAPP
@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Feb 01 10:20:59 2010 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. Gentlemen: For those wishing to convert a BP cavity to operate as both a BP and notch cavity there exists

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread allan crites
@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon Feb 01 10:20:59 2010 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. Gentlemen: For those wishing to convert a BP cavity to operate as both a BP and notch cavity there exists a simple and convenient way

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-02-01 Thread allan crites
KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote: From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:04 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread kd4wov
i looked at this duplexer, but those are pass/reject cavities. the cavities that i have are just notch with no pass. they have a single loop in each cavitiy. I would love to know how to make these into pass/reject, but that will not happen with these. there is a second hole with a cap, that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread kd4wov
As far as i have measured to this point, some where between 2 to 3db loss with 3 notches per side, with less loss on .125 and more loss on .625. the RX is .625 and tx is .125. 1) It looks like i could put 4 notches on .125 and 2 notches on .625 to reduce losses on .625. am i totally wrong in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread kd4wov
i looked at them a few weeks ago, if i center the notch on the .625 3 notches look like 66 to 70db with about 2 db loss. I can make the loss less by rotating the loops, but the notches go from about 30db each to just about 20db each. i looked at the pass cans. they will give about 12 to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread skipp025
kd4wov kd4...@... wrote: i looked at this duplexer, but those are pass/reject cavities. the cavities that i have are just notch with no pass. they have a single loop in each cavitiy. I would love to know how to make these into pass/reject, but that will not happen with these. there

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread skipp025
these are db 4140 notch cans. the origional connecting cables are 4 from connector to connector, which gives 6 from center of tee to center of tee. they are from a VHF 155/154 mhz range. The comments in my most recent previous post were directed toward a Sinclair Product because I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread kd4wov
I will look to see if DB/andrew/ who ever owns them now, still make loops for these. I have considered fabricating some spare loops just to have on hand. we have 4 pass cans at the site in a cabinet that are just waiting to have some vari caps installed to make them into pass/reject cans. as

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-30 Thread skipp025
Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans. kd4wov kd4...@... wrote: I will look to see if DB/andrew/ who ever owns them now, still make loops for these. I have considered fabricating some spare loops just to have on hand. You would not be restricted to using DB/Andrew/DB-Spectra loops

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-28 Thread kd4wov
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Graham gram.warring...@... wrote: If it were me... I would make 2 C2037 mulitcouple filters. You have the cans to do it .. Just takes a few cables and tune it up.. The C2037 ( Sinclair ) will have a 3 db loss.. lots of isolation and be the best

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-25 Thread Graham
If it were me... I would make 2 C2037 mulitcouple filters. You have the cans to do it .. Just takes a few cables and tune it up.. The C2037 ( Sinclair ) will have a 3 db loss.. lots of isolation and be the best bet for you. Graham VE3WGW

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-23 Thread kd4wov
these are db 4140 notch cans. the origional connecting cables are 4 from connector to connector, which gives 6 from center of tee to center of tee. they are from a VHF 155/154 mhz range. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kd4wov kd4...@... wrote: Hello All, I am building a duplexer

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a notch duplexer with notch cans.

2010-01-23 Thread skipp025
My question to you is... do you think the cavities have enough Q so they might be configured for a 500 KHz split duplexer without excessive loss? s. kd4wov kd4...@... wrote: Hello All, I am building a duplexer for use on 150.125 tx and 150.625 rx. this ia for a mars machine. Yes i