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>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
>buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:41 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non
John Transue wrote:
> Well, I wanted to use GM300s until I found out that I can't afford the
> software and cable to program these radios. Now it looks like I will
> have to settle for new ham gear. With the Motorola radios, I'd have to
> take the radios to a shop and pay $45 per radio every time I
On May 7, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Paul Plack wrote:
> Buying an expensive, poorly-shielded box of low-quality surface-
> mount chips "so anybody can work on it" is actually pretty funny.
> Obviously they've never worked on older commercial stuff, which
> usually has manuals so detailed any chimpa
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
I've seen two cases in which club boards, over the advice of the tech
people, insisted on ordering new ham-grade repeaters so they'd be
covered by a manufacturers warranty. Apparently, the directors didn'
On Thu, 7 May 2009, wd8chl wrote:
> How about putting money into a project for a club repeater (including
> buying crystals), installing it, and then after it's running, being
> told to 'take it out we don't want to use that, we want something
> anyone can work on', which turns out to be some ma
of our
annual tropical storm season. You don't see many Ringos here reported
flying around in a hurricane. -Mike
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:52 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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hursday, May 07, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
Yep. "Get that GE junk out of here." A few guys around here have been
through that one :-(
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message - > How about putting money into
Yep. "Get that GE junk out of here." A few guys around here have been
through that one :-(
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message - > How about putting money into a project for a
club repeater (including
> buying crystals), installing it, and then after it's running, being told
> to 'take it
Nate Duehr wrote:
> I've SEEN this work in person... the right people tell the right people
> that the ham standing there with the test gear "knows what he's doing",
> and the gear goes in the back of the truck and off they go. It's rare,
> but in the REALLY big events... any qualified help you
Nate Duehr wrote:
> (Raise your hands if you've put personal money into a club radio system
> to make it better... and never gotten reimbursed! I bet more than 1/2
> the room's hands go up on this one!!!)
How about putting money into a project for a club repeater (including
buying crystals),
Nate Duehr wrote:
We could discuss how utterly
> useless ham radio is these days, or my favorite point recently that
> anyone with a satellite dish, ability to aim it, and an IP-based
> service, can do more communications "good" in a disaster area with that
> IP, an Asterisk box, and some cordle
AJ wrote:
> I concur - I would *love* to see a write up with photos (preferrably with
> arrows and captions pointing out actual issues rather than playing Where's
> Waldo?) up on the RB site.
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> Half the battle is encouraging folks to do it right the first time - the
> easier we, as a community,
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Nate Duehr" wrote:
> The above CRAP jobs are often why hams aren't welcome at commercial
> sites. I hate it when hams do this. Had to vent. There were some
> "newbies" along on the trip, and I think they got the point when I
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+1
excellent idea
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> From: wb2...@roadrunner.com
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:48:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
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On Tue, 05 May 2009 17:01:43 -0400, "Daniel L. Fargo"
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> Well the real question is when is the Federal Government going to wake
> up and get rid of the no longer need advanced CB radio people! When they
> removed the tech from Ham radio it died. And what a gold mine they are
> sitting on
what not to do" article up on r-b, it can always find a
welcome home in the Humor section.
Bob M.
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--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
> From: Chuck Kelsey
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:48:13 -0400, "Chuck Kelsey"
said:
> Nate -
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> May I suggest that you do a write-up with photos that could be posted on
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> RB site? Maybe "the right way" and "the wrong way" would be helpful for
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> making installs. And explain why it's done this way, not that w
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Daniel L. Fargo wrote:
> Well the real question is when is the Federal Government going to wake
> up and get rid of the no longer need advanced CB radio people! When
> they removed the tech from Ham radio it died. And what a gold mine
> they are sitting on (frequencies) the
Well the real question is when is the Federal Government going to wake
up and get rid of the no longer need advanced CB radio people! When they
removed the tech from Ham radio it died. And what a gold mine they are
sitting on (frequencies) the government just did it to the tv stations
why are
e wrong way" would be helpful for
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> Chuck
> WB2EDV
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From: "Nate Duehr"
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Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
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>> Interesting, this looks like one of those Hams/bash-hams discu
On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:32:57 -, "Louis" said:
> Interesting, this looks like one of those Hams/bash-hams discussions
> that is not suppose to take place on this forum!
Sometimes you just have to rant when you see something this bad. I
didn't name names, and I didn't attack any individual.
@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Louis
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:36 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Ham installation quality/non-quality
Ryan,
It is not always just a privilege for an Amateur Radio Repeater to be on a
tower. In many instances, the Amat
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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I should have read the rest of the thread before replying!
Dang Digest Mode!
Apologies to all!
Louis - K1STX
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Louis" wrote:
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> Interesting, this looks like one of those Hams/bash-hams discussions that is
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Ryan,
It is not always just a privilege for an Amateur Radio Repeater to be on a
tower. In many instances, the Amateur Radio operator and/or club pay just as
much as whatever commercial outfits are on that tower. In other instance, the
Amateur Radio repeater and/or club takes care of the main
Interesting, this looks like one of those Hams/bash-hams discussions that is
not suppose to take place on this forum!
Yes, I will agree their are those that cause havoc with a tower site owner, or
other lessors, but the number is minor compared to those Amateur Radio installs
that are done pro
Totally agree with Nate, Hams can talk great distances using the least
expensive means. and have seen my fair share of ham and commercial installsm
usally revolves making the sale at any cost. this is the 2-way radio industry
everyone is cutting everyones prices.
Personally hams should be the b
The funny/sad thing is I've seen "professional" installs that are on the same
par as that also. It's hard to believe people get away charging for these type
installs and stay in business. In fact I was at one of my work sites today
installing a PDR3500 as a temporary repeater and saw a similar
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