Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-12 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Jacob Suter wrote: > I thought the prefered poor-man's repeater antenna was a J-pole? Single folded dipole IMO. > Out of curiosity - are the 'square dipole' (or 'gapped loop' or whatever > they want to call them) antennas usable for repeater use? Example: > http://www

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread David Murman
. David -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:45 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question John, My suggestion is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Jacob Suter
Kris Kirby wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Thomas Oliver wrote: > > Buy a commercial one and cry once. > > What he said. Give until it hurts, but a DB-224 or a Super Stationmaster > with upper brace are a necessity in environments where ice damage is a > possible. Do it once, do it right. > > O

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Thomas Oliver wrote: > Buy a commercial one and cry once. What he said. Give until it hurts, but a DB-224 or a Super Stationmaster with upper brace are a necessity in environments where ice damage is a possible. Do it once, do it right. Or do it every week/month/year. Are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Eric Lemmon
yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of W3ML Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question Hi again, We are looking to replace that used antenna after getting 100 feet of new Andrew 1/2"

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Jim Cicirello
: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question Hi again, We are looking to replace that used antenna after getting 100 feet of new Andrews 1/2" donated to our club. Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
W3ML wrote: > Hi again, > > We are looking to replace that used antenna after getting 100 feet of new > Andrews 1/2" donated to our club. > > Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800 > bucks to buy one. > > So, my question is should we just get a new G7-144 to re

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread Thomas Oliver
/2009 10:09:31 AM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question > > Hi again, > > We are looking to replace that used antenna after getting 100 feet of new Andrews 1/2" donated to our club. > > Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800 bucks t

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2009-10-11 Thread W3ML
Hi again, We are looking to replace that used antenna after getting 100 feet of new Andrews 1/2" donated to our club. Now I realize that the DB type antenna is the best, but we do not have 800 bucks to buy one. So, my question is should we just get a new G7-144 to replace the used G7 or is th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread Paul Plack
- Original Message - From: Ian Miller To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:43 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question Our group has a Sinclair 8 dipole array for UHF. The repeater was recently moved, and has not been behaving as us

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread Cort Buffington
Ian, As some others have pointed out, I too have seen a little odd response from the MFJ analyzer too. I very recently used one to toy around with several DB420 antennas. The MFJ wasn't "wrong" really, but it did not give the same response that two different SWR/Wattmeters powered by two

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Ian Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ian Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:43 AM > Our group has a Sinclair 8 dipole array

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread de W5DK
, 2008 8:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question Our group has a Sinclair 8 dipole array for UHF. The repeater was recently moved, and has not been behaving as usual. It hears OK, but seems weak on transmit. One of the members went up to the site

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question > Our group has a Sinclair 8 dipole array for UHF. > > The repeater was recently moved, and has not been behaving as usual. > It hears OK, but seems weak on transmit. > >

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-09-05 Thread Ian Miller
Our group has a Sinclair 8 dipole array for UHF. The repeater was recently moved, and has not been behaving as usual. It hears OK, but seems weak on transmit. One of the members went up to the site last night with an MFJ antenna analyser - and he measured SWR at 3:1 - with no real resonant poi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Krylon

2008-05-05 Thread Eric Grabowski
For what it's worth, I'll add my two cents: After assembling and tuning a 2 meter Ringo antenna, I wiped it down with rubbing alcohol and then sprayed it with urethane spar (marine) varnish, which I bought at K-mart. I used an entire can (12 ounces maybe). The antenna performed well through twe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-04 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 4 May 2008, Bruce Bagwell wrote: > OK guys, along this same line, I have a VHF all copper J-Pole and plan > on building UHF all copper J-pole. Is common clear lacquer OK to > prevent corrosion on the copper elements? I have used automotive type > black silicone under 2" wide electrical

[Repeater-Builder] antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-04 Thread Bruce Bagwell
OK guys, along this same line, I have a VHF all copper J-Pole and plan on building UHF all copper J-pole. Is common clear lacquer OK to prevent corrosion on the copper elements? I have used automotive type black silicone under 2" wide electrical tape to seal connections and the coax itself. Th

RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-03 Thread no6b
At 5/3/2008 11:44, you wrote: >At 08:44 AM 05/01/08, Ron Wright, N9EE wrote: > > > >(big chunk cut out) > > > >One other plus for > >folded dipole antennas, the fiberglass antennas are much more prone to > >become toothpicks with a lightning strike where a 224 will most likely > >survive. > >Plus

RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-03 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:44 AM 05/01/08, Ron Wright, N9EE wrote: > >(big chunk cut out) > >One other plus for >folded dipole antennas, the fiberglass antennas are much more prone to >become toothpicks with a lightning strike where a 224 will most likely >survive. Plus in windy areas they need a top support to preven

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, My problem is not the harness, but the exposed dipoles. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/05/01 Thu PM 07:00:56 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question > >Ro

RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Yahoo
s.com Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question Paul, I talked with my friend about the DB224. He said as you did. When you get it you have to tighten the hardware. Some was more than finger loose. This is for all antennas, but more for DB Products. He has used the Scotchkote. He lik

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Nate Duehr
Ron Wright wrote: > I'm giving myself about a week to think on the DB224 or Station Master. I > like both, but lean toward the Station Master. Heh, my "usual" comment... everyone will be expecting this one... "Have you considered a Sinclair with the harness internal to the antenna?" I still t

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread NORM KNAPP
Have you considered a DB-264E? 73 de N5NPO Norm - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu May 01 18:43:03 2008 Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question Paul, I talked with my friend about the DB224. He said

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Wright
week to think on the DB224 or Station Master. I like both, but lean toward the Station Master. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Paul Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/05/01 Thu AM 10:44:37 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna questi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Nate Duehr
Paul Finch wrote: > I have posted this several times on R/B and will do it again. When you get Maybe it should be an article? :-) Nate WY0X

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Wright
install. All of what you did was done, but not sure about this antenna. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Paul Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/05/01 Thu AM 10:44:37 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question >Ron, > >I a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Paul Finch
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:39 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question hi all, I am about to replace a DB224 side mounted at 1175 ft above ground. The antenna is close to the Gulf, 0.5 mi, and think the salt

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Wright
hi all, I am about to replace a DB224 side mounted at 1175 ft above ground. The antenna is close to the Gulf, 0.5 mi, and think the salt air got to it. It has been up about 12 years and now has an SWR of 2:1. The coverage is very noticeably less. I am thinking of a Super Station Master fibe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2008-04-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:00 PM 04/21/08, you wrote: >We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) >repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run >your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and >one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be abl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2008-04-22 Thread Paul Finch
t: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question It depends on band, split, power, and antenna gain. On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:00:23 - "Christopher Hodgdon" mailto:chris.hodgdon%40kaufman-ares.org"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is n

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2008-04-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
008 7:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and o

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2008-04-21 Thread mung
It depends on band, split, power, and antenna gain. On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:00:23 - "Christopher Hodgdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no >such thing) > repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a >duplexer to run > your anten

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2008-04-21 Thread Christopher Hodgdon
We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly operate?

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-25 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 10:07 AM 3/25/2008, you wrote: >Maybe that's what he has, even though he said it wasn't a DB products. But >he said antenna rod, not tubing. Was that particular model made with rod? Chuck - have been told by someone else that it is a Sinclair. I can find no tag or ID on it that tells me that

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
08 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question > There is a DB224 with internal harness. Not made for Ham band, but for > 150-160, etc. > > 73, ron, n9ee/r > > > >>From: Larry Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: 2008/03/24 Mon PM 05:41:52 CD

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-25 Thread Ron Wright
There is a DB224 with internal harness. Not made for Ham band, but for 150-160, etc. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Larry Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/03/24 Mon PM 05:41:52 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Than it's not a SRL-224. On those, the element attaches directly to the mast (and the harness is external). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Larry Wagoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anten

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Could you find it on the Sinclair web site? How about a picture of one of the elements? You can email one to me. Chuck wb2edv at roadrunner dot com - Original Message - From: "Larry Wagoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - >furthest away from the mast? One other thing ... the arms holding the dipole away from the mast is only about 8 inches long - and extends to both the inside and outside of the dipole. Not su

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 05:48 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >Is there a blob of heat-shrink tubing at the middle of the element - >furthest away from the mast? Nope - just aluminum rod Larry N5WLW

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Monday, March 24, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question > At 05:37 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >>You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. > > Hmmm - this thing has a harness interior to the mast and which runs > through the center of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 05:37 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. Hmmm - this thing has a harness interior to the mast and which runs through the center of the arms which hold the bays. Ideas? Larry N5WLW

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You may have something else. The SRL-224 has an external harness. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Larry Wagoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question >I have what may see to

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-03-24 Thread Larry Wagoner
I have what may see to be a dumb question ... I have in my possession what I am told is a Sinclair 224 VHF four-bay folded dipole. My MFJ 259 says the antenna is resonant at 147.1 - which is close enough for the frequency where I want to use it: 145.150. This is an older antenna - and I am wonde

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-02-17 Thread n0qzv_jhorn
I am looking into rebuilding a Diamond X510 antenna this spring and I had a question about the moisture problems these antennas expierence. I know the foam spacers are a bad idea from the start but has anyone tried anything else? I once worked with an old Antenna Specialists UHF omni that had

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question

2008-02-17 Thread n0qzv_jhorn
I am looking into rebuilding a Diamond X510 antenna this spring and I had a question about the moisture problems these antennas expierence. I know the foam spacers are a bad idea from the start but has anyone tried anything else? I once worked with an old Antenna Specialists UHF omni that had

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-02-01 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:24 PM 2/1/2008, you wrote: >Hi Steve, > > > >The Diamond and Comet antennas will probably only last one or two >seasons in your weather! I could write two pages of faults in >construction on these brands. Just not build sturdy enough. They don't >last long here in Michigan. I am in the Detro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-02-01 Thread Shanon KA8SPW
Hi Steve, First, avoid using LMR-400 for duplex use. This and 9913 are not good for duplex. Aluminum shield and tinned copper braid rubbing together and setting up corrosion causing noise. This is not a very long run, try and get some 1/2" hardline, you will not be disappointed. Spend al

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Zimmerman
: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum. If either takes a lightning strike the fiberglass will explode. I have had that happen with both. Check into Tram antennas. they seem electrically and mechanically similar to the diamond but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum. Goodafternoon, Me and a friend are putting up a secondary VHF repeater and have a antenna question. Being we are on a budget but have looked at these 2 antennas as options

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-01-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You'll hear this from others -- DO NOT use the LMR-400 cable in duplex situations. This subject comes up about every other week here. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "w2sxk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: [Repe

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-01-26 Thread w2sxk
Goodafternoon, Me and a friend are putting up a secondary VHF repeater and have a antenna question. Being we are on a budget but have looked at these 2 antennas as options. Diamond F22A monoband base or the Husler G6-144B Any pros or cons to these antennas and which would you choose or you h

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2005-12-31 Thread Mike Mullarkey
sage- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question Hello to the list. Has anyone used or using the MFB1503 Series antenna

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2005-12-30 Thread rrath
Hello to the list. Has anyone used or using the MFB1503 Series antenna as a repeater antenna? If so, what do you think of it? This will be for 2 meter use, at about 3,200' here in Washington state; will get ice and snow build up. Any comments? Thank you. Rod Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-22 Thread Mark Holman
technical in nature nad some in PDF file Mark Holman AB8RU Happy Holidays - Original Message - From: "talviar4499" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . . > > > OK. > &

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yes they do. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . . > > > Sinclair makes excellent dipoles. We switched to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread mike
Sinclair makes excellent dipoles. We switched to them several years ago and never looked back. http://www.sinctech.com/ Mike K6MJU > > > OK. > > One of the repeaters I help maintain (145.170 located in > Connellsville, PA on the mountain) recently lost an antenna in the > wind storms that hit

[Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread talviar4499
OK. One of the repeaters I help maintain (145.170 located in Connellsville, PA on the mountain) recently lost an antenna in the wind storms that hit us around the beginning of December. Antenna we had on the tower was a Celwave PD340-3 (If you have never seen a 4 bay folded dipole with the t

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

2004-12-12 Thread rrath
Hello to the list. I know this topic has come up over and over before, but, I have a question. I have a Stationmaster type antenna that I want to retune. I am trying WD8CHL's mod. I have put three pieces of aluminum foil on and it has not changed the SWR reading from the first piece I put on.