Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread NORM KNAPP
Yes, I don't know why the db-201 has such ridiculously long radials, but that is how they were designed. Go figure. I would like to know why though if someone knows... 73 - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat Feb 20 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
First, the DB-201 was not designed for tower side-mounting, so don't expect it to work well. That said, how far away from the tower will the antenna be? There's a real good chance that the VSWR will go sour when it's side-mounted. However, I have no personal experience with that antenna, but in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Richard Fletcher
of that is in use anymore.  Good Luck! -Richard   From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 8:36:35 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?   First, the DB-201 was not designed for t

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Yes, I don't know why the db-201 has such ridiculously long > radials, but that is how they were designed. Go figure. I > would like to know why though if someone knows... > 73 The venerable quarter-wave vertical antenna seems like such a simple antenna, but the physics behind it aren't al

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Various ARRL publications cite the 5% longer "rule." Right or wrong, who knows? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - > I haven't found any factual basis to back up the notion that the radials > should be 5% longer than the vertical radiator.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Various ARRL publications cite the 5% longer "rule." Right or > wrong, who > knows? > > Chuck > WB2EDV At the risk of offending someone somewhere, the fact that the ARRL cites the "5% rule" without backing it up with the analysis behind the rule doesn't really suprise me... Think about it th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yep, I know. I just wanted to let you know where the info was coming from. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Jeff DePolo" To: Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters? >> Various ARRL publica

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
> > Think about it this way. If you made a dipole, would you > > cut one side 5% longer than the other? > > Maybe, if you had a reason for offset feed... but most offset > Dipoles are not 5% different. I thought the subject was about > 1/4 wave ground planes and not dipoles... they are not the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jeff DePolo wrote: > Kinda along the same lines as "always make the cable from the > connector on the transmitter to the connector on the duplexer an even > half-wave". The reason for doing that is that if the duplexer presents a short-circuit, said short-circuit won't appe

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jeff DePolo wrote: > > Kinda along the same lines as "always make the cable from the > > connector on the transmitter to the connector on the > duplexer an even > > half-wave". > > The reason for doing that is that if the duplexer presents a > short-circuit, said short-c

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jeff DePolo wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jeff DePolo wrote: > > > Kinda along the same lines as "always make the cable from the > > > connector on the transmitter to the connector on the > > duplexer an even > > > half-wave". > > > > The reason for doing that is that if th

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-22 Thread Gary Schafer
> -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:03 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measure