Ludwig,
defending the ideals is the best thing one can do in his life. With the pragmatic
view, you propose, we would stay till nowadays "on the trees eating bananas".
Radovan
Ludwig Keller a écrit:
Armel: as in the past such debates are mute and go nowhere; these days, fame and
fortunes
>"Stellar example", wow.
Well. an American wrote that :-) You and I would be more modest Armel :-)
>...such debates are mute and go nowhere;
Hmm. That's a moot point, but let's meet half way;
I agree that in such debates it may be better to remain mute.
Alan.
Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE
On mercredi 7 Juillet 2004 08:28, Dr. Holger Putz wrote:
> > The algorithm is in the literature, so why prevent
> > the implementation of it in software?
>
> It is true, the algorithm is in the literature; unfortunately, the exact
> form of the potential and especially its parameters have not been
> (i) if the parameters are not just a few numbers derived from the
database,
> but are a significant part of the database (like a list of all interatomic
> distances in the database)
> (ii) if part of the study was directly paid by the CCDC
> But if neither (i) or (ii) are true, i.e. there are ju
On jeudi 8 Juillet 2004 10:37, Dr. Holger Putz wrote:
> > (i) if the parameters are not just a few numbers derived from the
>
> database,
>
> > but are a significant part of the database (like a list of all
> > interatomic distances in the database)
> > (ii) if part of the study was directly paid b
> ...or better, publish the parameters (hint, hint)
That's an excellent idea! I will forward it to Dr. Hofmann.
Thank you!
Holger
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Crystal Impact
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>...it's clearly an abuse and probably illegal...
>So just use the algorithm... and let them sue...
>> ...or better, publish the parameters (hint, hint)
>That's an excellent idea! I will forward it to Dr. Hofmann.
OK, I tried to keep this amusing, but this is getting serious. I am not in any way
Even Armel and I have to pay to eat...
And a brain works better if the stomach is not empty...
So, this story may have convinced you that people
working on proteins are lucky with that open PDB
database, that people working on nucleic acids are
lucky with that open NDB database, that people
workin
On jeudi 8 Juillet 2004 12:07, Alan Hewat wrote:
> I am all in favour of a serious debate on this question, but now we have
> one commercial company criticising another without hearing from the other
> side. And responsible people advocating behaviour that may be illegal.
I would really like to
What a fine debate Armel and Alan have given to us!
I can agree with Alan's point that the CCDC would want a slice of the
money that Crystal Impact would receive. But Crystal Impact's statements
didn't mention fiduciary gain being an issue. I don't know if they
accurately describe the situati
>I would really like to hear the other party, which is why I tried to list a
>few possibilities under which the ccdc position would be understandable.
OK, I have contacted the CCDC for a statement, and they tell me that this is an issue
that is being discussed between the interested parties, th
I have to agree with Vincent that I find aspects of CCDC's apparent
actions troubling and warrant discussion even if all parties reach a
happy agreement behind closed doors. If the CCDC claims partial
ownership of everything derived from their database then how far does
that go? Can they preven
On jeudi 8 Juillet 2004 17:19, Alan Hewat wrote:
> They are informed of the statements made by individuals on this mailing
> list, but feel that on-going commercial negotiations are not a subject for
> public debate. Senior CCDC management, including the people in charge of
> the negotiations, are
Thank you for this interesting discussion. Does this also apply to the ICSD
database? I have made tables from data taken from ICSD - am I going to go
to jail?
- Kurt
- Original Message -
From: "Brian H. Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have made tables from data taken from ICSD - am I going to go to jail?
Depends. If you are going to make your fortune from it and retire to the
south of France on the proceeds, then yes, certainly ! In that case, you
had better read the fine print on
http://www.fiz-informationsdienste.de/en/ag
<>
I fear you will have to go but you can buy yourself out with a lifelong ICSD
subscription! And remember, you have the right to remain silent.
L. Keller
Dear all,
We are trying to solve a powder crystal structure containing Praseodymium ( At. No. 59) as heavy atom. We have index the powder pattern by using the programme TREOR and DICVOL . Both gives the same results with a very figure of merits ( 23, 45). We have got the Pr co-ordinat
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