Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
I'm doing things a lot differently with my internet radio station as compared to most professional radio stations... I'm not after to be a "typical" professional radio station... not even a "professional" radio station. My service is simply a way to get messages from different churches known to oth

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Wayne Merricks
One thing I've used day parting for is show adverts. I can schedule a "show advert" slot in all the clocks and all I have to do is make the cuts invalid so that the breakfast show advert doesn't play during the breakfast show etc. I also do it with monthly/weekly competitions and recorded n

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Dan Mills
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 12:02 -0500, Rob Landry wrote: > Putting more than one song on a cart detracts from a programmer's ability > to control the sound of his station, as it makes it impossible to know > which song on the cart will play in any particular instance. I don't know > why anyone woul

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Rob Landry" <41001...@interpring.com> > songs on a cart you'll never know for sure, and some "truck crashes" > will be inevitable. I'm curious: in what area is that the phrase for what I'm accustomed to hearing called a "train wreck"? :-) Cheers, -- jra --

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Rob Landry
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012, Kevin Miller wrote: > It may have changed, but historically the advice was to have one cut per > cart. The exception was with advertisements or IDs and the like where > you might have various versions but it didn't really matter which > played, as long as one did. Usually i

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
Thanks for the info. What I understand from others... using this system will cause carts to be randomized... from the ones I select to be played during that specific time slot on the clock? Is this a correct assumption? Or will carts be played in sequence? On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Wayne Me

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-02 Thread Wayne Merricks
Hi, From what I've read I don't understand why you are scheduling specific songs/carts in the logs manually if what you really want is a generated log. RDLogedit lets you manually create playlists and is only really used as an exception to the normal logs for example if you have a one off

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
I've tried to understand the logistics behind the log system. The issue with my station though when it comes to logs is timing. I tried using logs before. It didn't work properly (was I doing something wrong?). The logs did not satisfy the times I specified when generating them... not even close. I

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Kevin Miller
On 01/01/2012 06:58 PM, Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio wrote: > Does anyone have any hints on how to shuffle my cuts on a per-cart basis > efficiently? ...even if I have to use a PHP script executed on a > schedule to make MySQL queries? It may have changed, but historically the advice was to ha

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
I just changed it in the database not through rdlibrary lol. I have to be soo complicated. Anyway thanks for telling me about random being deprecated. Can there be a workaround... such as a php script that randomizes cuts in the database? I don't know if you know anything about PHP. On Mon, Jan 2

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Luigino Bracci
Hi, A small bug: When you choose _two or more carts_ in the rdlibrary and you click the Edit button, the "Edit Carts" dialog shows a "Scheduled cuts" option, letting you to choose between Sequential or Random cuts. 2012/1/2 Robert Orr > Hi Patrick, > Here's a quote from the news file: > v1.0.0r

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
It helps a little but still doesn't make sense. My cuts played in sequential order 1 2 3 4 5 before I changed all play sequence values to 1 for random. Then they played in different order ex. 12534. But they ALWAYS play in that order... they are never randomized again. I thought if random retired

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Robert Orr
Hi Patrick, Here's a quote from the news file: v1.0.0rc0 -- 04/10/2008 snip Changes: Random Cut Rotation Retired. The ability to schedule cuts to rotate 'randomly' within a cart has been removed, with all cut rotation now using the original 'sequential' algorithm. /snip Hope that helps, Rob

Re: [RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2012-01-01 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
I tried the following when it comes to randomizing rivendell cuts... and none of them have been a success: *Shuffling cut names in database via. PHP script (caused cuts to have wrong lengths and settings) *Clearing play log (did nothing) *Cleared play and local counters for all cuts (did nothing)

[RDD] Rivendell randomizing cuts in a cart doesn't seem to be "random enough"

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Schmalstig / WRRJ Radio
Hello. I have went through the database on my Rivendell 2.1.0 system under Ubuntu Studio 11.10 and set all my music carts' play order from 0 to 1 to indicate to play cuts randomly. It doesn't seem random enough. It's like if I was playing a regular rotation except the cuts are in different order;