Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Stephen McCracken
>> if the RDD developer folk in general were to centralize on a platform... > Broadcast Appliance/CentOS *is* RHE, in all but name and logo. Just curious, are there any plans/dates of a transition to CentOS6 as the base? sjm ___ Rivendell-dev mailing li

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread John Edstrom
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 08:48 -0800, Kevin Miller wrote: > On 07/08/2013 07:19 AM, Gary wrote: > > > if the RDD developer folk in general were to centralize on a platform > > like RHE or Suse Linux Enterprise Server - SLES with a longer life > > span would resolve to a more stable platform with grea

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Andy Sayler
It's also worth noting that all Ubuntu LTS releases (12.04, 14.04, etc) carry a full 5 year support period for both the desktop and server variants. And there's a new version every two years for those that want to stay on top of things (as opposed to RHEL/CentOS which only sees major version update

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Lorne Tyndale
Hi Gary, > In the big pic the fast moving revisions of the Linux freeware seems to be a > deal breaker with many RDD > installations. Just my perspective... if the RDD developer folk in general > were to centralize on a platform > like RHE or Suse Linux Enterprise Server - SLES with a longer li

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Kevin Miller
On 07/08/2013 07:19 AM, Gary wrote: if the RDD developer folk in general were to centralize on a platform like RHE or Suse Linux Enterprise Server - SLES with a longer life span would resolve to a more stable platform with greater support. I believe it is Actually they have. RD used to be bui

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:19 24, Gary wrote: > if the RDD developer folk in general were to centralize on a platform like > RHE or Suse Linux Enterprise Server - SLES with a longer life span would > resolve to a more stable platform with greater support. Broadcast Appliance/CentOS *is* RHE, in all

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jul 7, 2013, at 16:59 24, Cowboy wrote: > Aren't all RPM the same ? > ( compatible at least ) At the file-format level, yes. However, different distros use different package naming conventions and library versions, effectively making RPMs from different distros incompatible. It's a crap sh

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Rob Landry
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Gary wrote: ...so the big picture remains that installation of Rivendell is no longer my main thorn in my side, but the streaming chain: Jack / Encoder / Icecast. I have darkice and icecast running reliably under a variety of Linux distributions at several stations, no

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Gary
Gary > > From: Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> >To: G Wood >Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System > >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 8:46 AM >Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature >request &

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-08 Thread Rob Landry
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013, G Wood wrote: Your post Fred is helpful. I found this post from the past and thought I'd try to resurrect it.  I am curious about the RDD Broadcast Appliance, I have downloaded it several times from the Paravel site but have encountered repeated corrupt installs, errors r

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread Wayne Merricks
One extra thing to add about the liquidsoap setup on Ubuntu Server. You can setup triggers to respawn on a crash (via upstart scripts) and gracefully restart other parts of the chain. During testing I sat there doing killall liquidsoap, jackd, icecast etc and no matter what I tried it all came

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread Wayne Merricks
Hi, Liquidsoap is the way to go. At the risk of repeating myself I've had uptime of over 9months (with a local icecast server) which was stopped by either electricity problems or building moves. I just spent an entire Saturday using Debian 7, Rivendell with JACK, Liquidsoap, Rotter and Jami

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread Kevin Miller
On 07/07/2013 12:59 PM, Cowboy wrote: On Sunday 07 July 2013 04:30:55 pm Lorne Tyndale wrote: As for Suse, I don't know of any current Rivendell pre-built packages. Isn't SuSE an RPM based distro ? Yes. Aren't all RPM the same ? ( compatible at least ) Nope. Just like installing a

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread Cowboy
On Sunday 07 July 2013 04:30:55 pm Lorne Tyndale wrote: > As for Suse, I don't know of any current Rivendell pre-built packages. Isn't SuSE an RPM based distro ? Aren't all RPM the same ? ( compatible at least ) -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com "The porcupine with the sharpest quills gets

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread Lorne Tyndale
Hi Gary, As has been mentioned on this list, Darkice has been found to be unstable by many users. Most have migrated to Liquidsoap. When comparing the stability of Liquidsoap to Darkice, it is like night and day. As for Suse, I don't know of any current Rivendell pre-built packages. Have you t

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell: and a feature request

2013-07-07 Thread G Wood
Your post Fred is helpful. I found this post from the past and thought I'd try to resurrect it. I am curious about the RDD Broadcast Appliance, I have downloaded it several times from the Paravel site but have encountered repeated corrupt installs, errors referring to a kernel panic and other low

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Fred Gleason
On Aug 6, 2012, at 11:33 59, Nathan Steele wrote: > Anyway use what you want, but FRED, Please don't ditch CEntOS. No worries, it's here to stay. I've actually got some CentOS 6 boxes on the air for testing at selected sites now. Very solid system, with *much* better support for touchscreens

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Fred Gleason
On Aug 5, 2012, at 08:35 02, Rob Landry wrote: > My decision to try CentOS was driven by the idea that if Mr. Gleason is > using it, then the glitches will have already cropped up in the course of > his development work, so I should encounter fewer of them. It all depends on your overall goals

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Wayne Merricks
s.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell http://sourceforge.net/projects/rrabuntu/ On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 07:43 -0400, Rob Landry wrote: > Cool. Where can I find it? > ___ Rivendell-dev

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Robert Jeffares
http://sourceforge.net/projects/rrabuntu/ On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 07:43 -0400, Rob Landry wrote: > Cool. Where can I find it? > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/riven

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread ICR Programs
It was never my intent to ask anyone to ditch CentOS! I write from the perspective of a user who likes Rivendell a lot, wants to use it as a tool to do the work of getting our content to our transmitter, etc. and also NOT spend countless hours banging my head against to wall to do needed tasks on

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread al davis
On Friday 03 August 2012, ICR Programs wrote: > Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel > with CentOS and Rivendell. The reason is that nobody around > here -- we're all volunteers with skills in areas other than > high level sys admin -- can drive CentOS well enough to do > thi

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Nathan Steele
I say do what you want but I personally prefer CEntOS. I had no linux experience before setting up a rivendell based station a little over a year ago. I started with RRAbuntu, but another station I contract for was setting upo a paravel systems broadcast appliance install with a support contrac

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread ICR Programs
Yup, even I was able to do this successfully a few times. So, if I can do it, anyone can! On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Robert Jeffares wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 11:46 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: > > Is it easy enought (a few clicks) to import an old 1.7.2 database in > > to the > > ap

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread ICR Programs
the sudden need to make sure > everything is imaged again on a few spare drives. > > - Original Message - > From: > To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! %

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread ICR Programs
Stephan, Thanks for your response. It was this very Paravel install that I've just about given up on. YES it is a relatively easy install, our favorite part of it was the auto detect on the sound card :-). My least favorite things about it: I don't understand it well enough to be in control. I

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-06 Thread Rob Landry
Cool. Where can I find it? Rob On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Robert Jeffares wrote: > yep runs on clunky old laptop > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 20:59 -0400, Rob Landry wrote: >> >> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Robert Jeffares wrote: >> >>> There is a Debian/Ubuntu Appliance >> >> Will it run on 32-bit hardware? >> >

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gavin Stephens
Barkman" To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell > But copying a decent size /var/snd directory could take a few hours to > copy ... especially if the fi

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gavin Stephens
Thanks Rob. Might start shopping for some used 64-bit hardware, maybe IBM's on Trade Me. - Original Message - From: "Robert Jeffares" To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [RDD]

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Robert Jeffares
yep runs on clunky old laptop On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 20:59 -0400, Rob Landry wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Robert Jeffares wrote: > > > There is a Debian/Ubuntu Appliance > > Will it run on 32-bit hardware? > > > Rob > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing lis

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Geoff Barkman
But copying a decent size /var/snd directory could take a few hours to copy ... especially if the files are still pcm wave from an old Rivendell setup Cheers Geoff On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Robert Jeffares wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 11:46 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: >> Is it easy enoug

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Robert Jeffares
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 11:46 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: > Is it easy enought (a few clicks) to import an old 1.7.2 database in > to the > appliance? > > Yes rdadmin>Backup DB on 1.7.2 to somewhere Make new install Copy /var/snd/ to /var/snd/ rdadmin>Restore DB from somewhere You may have to

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gavin Stephens
iscussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" Cc: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell > It is very easy, the hard part for me was understanding y

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Rob Landry
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Robert Jeffares wrote: > There is a Debian/Ubuntu Appliance Will it run on 32-bit hardware? Rob ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gerry Dalton
perfer a firewall. I use a > Mikrotik router for that, few watts vs 50W PC pfsense, although pfsense runs > well too. > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Jeffares" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 2:52 AM > Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- Ce

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gavin Stephens
uot;Robert Jeffares" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 21:07 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: >> a >> new OS with even bigger learning curves to compile rather than install >> from &

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Wayne Merricks
@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 21:07 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: > a > new OS with even bigger learning curves to compile rather than install > from > an RPM on the old system. as a user who has compiled Rivendell, and

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Robert Jeffares
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 21:07 +1200, Gavin Stephens wrote: > a > new OS with even bigger learning curves to compile rather than install > from > an RPM on the old system. as a user who has compiled Rivendell, and other things, on various OS since 1999, some of which no longer exist, the appliance

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Wayne Merricks
: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Rob Landry Sent: Sun 05/08/2012 13:35 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell On Sun, 5 Aug 2012, Gavin Stephens wrote: > I know Rivendell is sopose to be cro

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Rob Landry
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012, Gavin Stephens wrote: > I know Rivendell is sopose to be cross-linux platforms, but it never really > appears that easy in the posts. I feel the sudden need to make sure > everything is imaged again on a few spare drives. Compiling Rivendell on any distribution of Linux requ

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread Gavin Stephens
sts. I feel the sudden need to make sure everything is imaged again on a few spare drives. - Original Message - From: To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendel

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-05 Thread sfijn
The Paravel install disk are on CentOS5. Very easy install, runs well. The only thing is that the RN RML-command does not work... Cheers, Stephan > Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel with CentOS > and > Rivendell. The reason is that nobody around here -- we're all volunte

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-04 Thread Rob Landry
I always compile Rivendell from source; that way, I know what options it's built with and it's optimized for the hardware it will be running on. It took me two days of head-banging to get Rivendell running on CentOS 6.2. I'm used to Debian, which makes a lot more of the prerequisites available

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread ICR Programs
here are repos for Debian/Ubuntu so you can just add those to your apt >>> sources and do an apt-get install rivendell (I normally compile from source >>> so I've probably butchered the package names). >>> >>> http://debian.tryphon.eu/ for more info. >>> >

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread Andy Sayler
gt; >> >> -Original Message- >> From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of ICR >> Programs >> Sent: Fri 03/08/2012 23:39 >> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System >> Subject: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- Cen

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread Andy Sayler
bout the Rivendell Radio Automation System > Subject: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell > > Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel with CentOS and > Rivendell. The reason is that nobody around here -- we're all volunteers > with skills in areas other

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread ICR Programs
t; To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System > Subject: [RDD] agh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell > > Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel with CentOS and > Rivendell. The reason is that nobody around here -- we're all voluntee

Re: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread Wayne Merricks
-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of ICR Programs Sent: Fri 03/08/2012 23:39 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel with CentOS and Rivendell. The

[RDD] arrrrgh!!! % # -- CentOS and Rivendell

2012-08-03 Thread ICR Programs
Ok, I'm sorry to say I think we ought to throw in the towel with CentOS and Rivendell. The reason is that nobody around here -- we're all volunteers with skills in areas other than high level sys admin -- can drive CentOS well enough to do things that we need to do without spending a lot of time do