Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-24 Thread john
> If e.g. the options "crossfeed" and "stereo width" would be advanced > options, you'll still find them at the "sound settings menu" - when > you're in advanced mode. But "crossfeed" is a simple option, because it`s one of the first options I ever used and the cause I fell instantly in love with

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread XavierGr
My opinion is that Rockbox menus are just plain Great!Lots of options for serious users. Plain and simple menus that allow the user to modify his DAP like no-other player. Of course a little discussion to where each menu should be or optimisation of the menu system would be welcome. All the users s

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Daniel Ankers
>> My point is, that when you have the simple view, and turn on advanced, a >> bunch of settings just appeared, and you have no idea which, or where >> they are. This makes it, in my eyes, more confusing than simply always >> having all options available. > > Another option is having options grayed

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Paul Louden
I think that a simple/advanced scheme does not solve any problems at all.First: The problem of having a hard time finding options. In the simple scheme they will theoretically be just as hard to find, they're just harder to find in a shorter list on the page they're on. Second: You don't know they

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Malcolm Tyrrell
> My point is, that when you have the simple view, and turn on advanced, a > bunch of settings just appeared, and you have no idea which, or where > they are. This makes it, in my eyes, more confusing than simply always > having all options available. Another option is having options grayed out i

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Jonas H
Matthias Mohr wrote: >> The reason I dislike (despise is probably closer, in fact) the >> "Simple/Advanced" system that simply adds more options when advanced is >> enabled, is that you have no idea where to look for advanced options and >> they are usually not easy to find. > Why aren't they easy

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Peter D'Hoye
> I like the firefox about:config setting screen as well and I think > rockbox would benefit from something similer. ... and I don't like it at all. I hate to have to search different places for the option I want. IMHO this is even worse than having simple/advanced settings. Can't we just sort t

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Matthias Mohr
This is a bad option.. all settings should be available on the DAP. A nicer option is maybe having 2 sets of options, "simple" and "advanced" where the only difference is some options are not visible in "simple" mode. I like the idea! The reason I dislike (despise is probably closer, in fact) t

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread mat holton
On 8/23/06, *Jonas H* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: That's of course an option, but it'd be much nicer to have a dedicated .cfg editor, that allowed you to see the possible values, so you wouldn't have to type them out, you could just select them. I imagined

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Barry Wardell
On 8/23/06, Jonas H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's of course an option, but it'd be much nicer to have a dedicated.cfg editor, that allowed you to see the possible values, so youwouldn't have to type them out, you could just select them. I imaginedsomething like the text viewer, except with a cu

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Paul Louden
No, all options would be in the main menu.But the context menu would have all applicable options to the current context. So, while playing music, you can go to the context menu for what would be a "Simple" menu, while the main menu is the "Advanced" on still containing all possible options on the p

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Linus Nielsen Feltzing
Paul Louden wrote: One option is to move all the "playback" options out of the main menu, and into the WPS context menu, as well as any of the options in the "sound" menu which don't affect audio in plugins with audio (for example, is bass and treble applied to gameboy games? I really don't kn

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Paul Louden
One option is to move all the "playback" options out of the main menu, and into the WPS context menu, as well as any of the options in the "sound" menu which don't affect audio in plugins with audio (for example, is bass and treble applied to gameboy games? I really don't know the answer to this on

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Jonas H
Andreas Stemmer wrote: > I foresee long discussions about which options should be kept in > place... Steve Bavin wrote: > I strongly disagree with this idea. One man's esoteric is another man's > essential. Of course, but if we were to eventually decide to move some options out of the main menu,

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Jonathan Gordon
On 23/08/06, Andreas Stemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonas H wrote: > Jonathan Gordon wrote: > > This is a bad option.. all settings should be available on the DAP. A > > nicer option is maybe having 2 sets of options, "simple" and > > "advanced" where the only difference is some options are n

Re: Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Andreas Stemmer
Jonas H wrote: > Jonathan Gordon wrote: > > This is a bad option.. all settings should be available on the DAP. A > > nicer option is maybe having 2 sets of options, "simple" and > > "advanced" where the only difference is some options are not visible > > in "simple" mode. > > The reason I dislike

Option rework (was: Re: my next crazy idea... rework the menu system)

2006-08-23 Thread Jonas H
Jonathan Gordon wrote: >> I'm increasingly of the opinion that it might be a good idea, >> usability-wise if the menus were trimmed, and some of the more >> esoteric options only were available through .cfg files or similar. > Last post before going back On Topic... Since I have nothing to contrib